Hahaha! Yoey here is the thing, we are all making an assumptions and yes after life comes AFTER the LIFE but... when someone dies he lives after his/hers death which means he is leaving a life (after death) but here we go again what IF we don't know IF we have lived before this current state of life? ha? tricky isn't it?
Re: Afterlife By: Zea
Post # 10 Mar 20, 2011
Rzr I'd like to take on that quote.
You see, that quote only proves the living on of a soul to someone who actually believes in souls.
Personally, I feel the "soul" is a concept, to resulting combination of different aspects of the human mind.
In my personal belief, the soul is not an actual thing that is all powerful and capable of existing on other planes blah blah blah...
It's literally just your brain, your personality, and personality in my opinion, doesn't come from this spirit inside you, it comes from your experiences and memories from growing up.
Now then, since the soul in my opinion, is just a concept, its energy is solely just that of which fuels the brain, therefore, when your body dies, that energy is circulated back into the Earth and into the cycle of life.
That energy is absorbed by other beings.
Those are my thoughts on that quote, seeing as how that's a scientific law, and using it to try and prove the carrying on of one's soul sounded very strange to me.
Anyway, this post pretty much explains my thoughts on death, although I'm basically where Neorsa is.
I don't particularly care what happens to us when we die, although I do think there is a very good chance that we just die, and get over it, but I won't know until I've experienced it.
So until I die, I'll just worry about live.
Re: Afterlife By: rzr
Post # 11 Mar 21, 2011
Hi Zea,
Yours is an opinion that I would respectfully disagree with.
Charles Sagan,(A renowned atheist scientist)
Took all that comprises a human blood bone brains
and put it in a bucket and said look there is obviously
something missing (it does not live).
The thing that allows for us to astral project in my opinion
is the soul(or the astral).
Theres just too many cases of dearly beloved returning
from the grave to speak with us and a great many cultures
who embrace the thought of a soul.
The thing I would say is if it is around the world
as a main concept, it probably has some validity.
We could all be hallucinating that rzr. Or creating thoughtforms of the ones we care about unintentionally.
The thing is when we say this or that exists, it doesn't mean it does or doesn't exist, we are just saying it does.I could say I'm a purple spotted dinosaur, but it doesn't mean I am one.
Life is unprovable, and yet here we are. We go about our lives as if the world around us is real and there and that we can and do actually interact with it, and yet we cannot prove that we do indeed interact with it, or that it even exists to interact with. We could all be the dreams of one man, and we'll never know for sure if we are or aren't so.
I accept that this all may be a dream, but I treat what I think, feel, and see as if it is real because of the very simple reason that I find it beneficial to do so.
Re: Afterlife By: Rashnu.
Post # 13 Mar 21, 2011
"you cant be currently living afterlife, because our current state of being is called life, even if we are "dead". so after life comes after life."
While you have a point, the term "after life" does not specify which life. Is it this one because we are consciously aware of it, or is it a previous one, in which case this would be after that life. If it is all a separate dimension as Mara suggested, we could in fact be living in the after life but have made the decision to call this life as opposed to after life so as not to break the delusion that would keep the fabric of our world together.
Play with the terms and you can expand to the ends of the Earth with the multitude of possibilities.
Re: Afterlife By: rzr
Post # 14 Mar 22, 2011
Lol Rashnu I can not believe you where able to phrase that
in a way that was understandable. :D
Re: Afterlife By: Zea
Post # 15 Mar 22, 2011
Love this discussion...
I don't even wanna go into the whole text book worth of information explaining why a bucket of blood and organs isn't alive...