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Post # 9
So what then... will happen when the object they spend the entire time thinking it will saves them dissappears?
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Post # 10
That is closed minded thinking.. ^_^ to think an object can save you is not rational. To think an object can protect you is understandable. To save and protect are two different words with a complete different meaning. As any other protection, the possibility to fail is there, but the possibility to work as well. There should always be a back up plan, if possible cover the whole abc plus numbers.. ^_^. If an object worked in the past, faith on it will rise (just like anything else that succeeds) but if it fails, the mean the object was not for the situation and if it was used in the same situation in the past, then the circumstances are different. As numerologist will say, even if an event looks similar is not the same, every event is unique... because there is more to it. But, the object will be doubted after the point, but will be there because it worked other times. Once you get to this point you will understand, that to be dependable of an object is ok, but cannot be reliable all the time as we are speaking of the bible. The bible can change lives but cannot save them.. an object is use by humans, therefore the human has to save the person, just like a sword or a gun does not kill but a person does. ^_^ Objects that can be use to protect, but can backfire. The Bible has being use for many years, and hardly has any bad feedback of failing.. as for personal experience, the bible has many content that can be use for protection and it is widely use for those who exercise exorcism, but take in count.. it is the person and the object is an extra hand.
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Re: need help
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Post # 11
Me? Close minded? Nah, not really...but I don't think people should need an object that they think will help. I don't think people should be so quick to assume everything is "bad" and "out to hurt me" or "evil" also. I do believe you get what you give and letting sleeping dogs lie.
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Post # 12
I assumed your last comment was as "IF" question, meaning it is NOT your actual belief (as I said such a closed minded thinking.. taking out that part of you being closed minded.. ^_^ it is the way I express, so I do not believe you are closed minded person, but your comment was.) O_O As backing up my point.. if a person has a sword and attacks you.. O_o it is better off to have shield to protect (such as shield or an armor) than trying to stop it with your bear hands O_O just saying.. hahaha, but I agree that a person has to apply their skills in every situation, because anything fails no matter how perfect it is lay.
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Re: need help
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Post # 13
yes it was an If but youre right *throws mud at Vari*
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Post # 14
Dodges like Bush did with the shoes.
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Post # 15
back to the original topic..or at least I think it is...you say you are about to move to a place that has so much activity that people without a third eye can see it.I never new that was a qualification for seeing the supernatural.If you are as you say an intermediate in Magick(*looks to see what an intermediate in magick is*)and you have mastered Invocation,,binding ,and protection spells..My first questions is..#1 Why are you still considering moving to a place where you admit ,there are forces beyond your control?
#2 Have you tried the methods you say youve mastered to see if they work?
#3 If you have and they failed,with your knowledge as an intermediate(*still looking for definition*)why havent you apealed to your own Religion/god/goddess for help in ridding the place of what troubles you?
#4 what makes you think you are qualified to perform an exorcisim with ant ritual given to you ,and why do you think it would work if the other methods have failed?
In my opinion and this is just mine,,I think you should not move to the place ,,or wait untill youve past the Intermediate(*gave up on definition*)stage in your practice to try to remove what ever it is
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Post # 16
Nodrk, you are complicating things..This is Rebel we are talking about.. not all has to be taken up literal.. O_O since half of the things said are questionable, but you give a good point.
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Post # 17
*remains quiet so as not to complicate things*....lol
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Re: need help
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Post # 18
There are no forces outside of my control. ;) after all...a cookie is just a cooki but a newton is fruit and cake.
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