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Post # 11
Magic is a neutral energy, that deals beyond the positive and negative, its' realm lays within the Quantum level.
Magic does not take sides.
Magic is not good or evil.
Magic just IS.

Anyone that has seen Demons or dark entities, has not prepared themselves to deal with Magic. And as a result have invited "guests" unexpectedly. If you have not learn to deal with these issues you should get more training and do more studying. I say this not to be mean. I've have had to deal with many, many,...many untrained inexperienced "witches" that tried to do something they didn't understand.

Drak0666, first thing I would do is LBRP.
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Re: dark magic
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Post # 12
I like UnluckyRaven's suggestion of "beneficial or harmful", it makes much more sense than "white or black", putting emphasis on the intent rather than some philosophical color symbolism. I'm going to adopt these terms ^-^ Thank you for the inspiration! I've never articulated the difference so simply XD
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Re: dark magic
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I fully agree, but I would like to point out something. Most people who who are knowledged in the craft still use the term light and dark magic. Not to say that magic has a color, but to put a well known term to the intent of the magic that is being cast. This form of identification does indicate a lack of knowledge, but a classification system that is well known even by those who know the fallicy of the origins of it. By using this system, every caster, whether they accept the classifications or not, knows what you mean.

I am not saying that the term dark magic is used in the right concept here in this thread, but I am simply pointing out the facts so those who automatically jump on those for a simple term may learn to slow down, lose their superior attitude, and either realize it for a term to direct peoples thought to what the intent of that casting is, or see it as someone who doesn't know better and needs someone to teach them.


I apologise for the long post, but I get so tired of those who have a little knowledge and act like anyone not up to par with what they know is inferior. This is a place to discuss magic and to LEARN and TEACH. There is nothing but aggrivation for those who are too closed-minded to see that some people don't think exactly like them. If they differ, voice your opinion, but not in a condencedning term, for the only promotes dissentbetween people.
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Re: dark magic
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I get a little annoyed at the constant opposition to "light and dark" terminology. It has an old sort of charm to it, very romantic to me, and as you say... everyone knows what you mean. That isn't to say that definitions shouldn't be rewritten or revised, but I think the use of "light and dark" should be the least of a caster's worries when there are so many more pressing matters in the magick community. Such as, lack of education, unwillingness to learn basics (among the "new to it" crowd), and our image to those outside of the circle. I think it is fine to use "light and dark" to describe magick, as long as the person using it can accurately describe what is meant by these terms and how "white magick" can be "black magick" and vice versa.
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Re: dark magic
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exactly. As long as everyone knows what it means it terms of intent, but also keeps in mind that is is not an unfalsefiable description, then the problem of what type of magic you call it has a verifiable potential of becoming very much moot. :)
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Re: dark magic
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Hmmm....why are you even practicing magick if you believe hell is real?
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Re: dark magic
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As others have said, magic is magic in any form. It has no color. The intent of the user determines if the outcome will be positive or negative.

I practice both positive and negative magics, or beneficial and harmful as some prefer to call it, and I have not had this problem. (I like a balance of forces in my life). Also, I doubt that the individual would ''be in hell forever.'' If one is cautious and shows respect when working with any type of magic the outcome will be positive. I say this from personal experience. I would;however, advise beginners to wait until they had more experience before they contacted a demon.
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Re: dark magic
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Post # 18
Back on the subject of the original post...

My opinions and from my own personal experience along with known facts;
Dark magick dear, is magick that is literally dark. It is to do with shadows, night time, darkness in general etc...
I'm not talking about color here, I speak of lack of light.

It's not evil magick or demon summoning or so on nonsense.

I am night-kind, "night-kind" is a form or derivative if you will, of wiccanism; I also specialize in dark magick. Don't sit there and tell me it could cause you eternal damnation. First of all, ''Hell'' is in Christianity, Muslim, Judaeism sepcifically known as ''Hell'' (not underworld, not the abyss etc...). Those religions don't even believe in much less support ''dark magick'' so why would it cause you to go there? Rhetorical questions because it doesn't.
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Re: dark magic
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o0o Lady_Snow you bring up a very good point..

Light and Dark are not equivalent to White and Black. White and Black are part of the light spectrum (being colors). There is the argument that White and Black are absence and inclusion of all color, but there is a different between black paint and the lack of light in a room. Similarly, white paint is different than light. Light and Dark magick can be alternative names for magick done in the day and at night, or invoking the Sun and moon. Both strong light and intense darkness are blinding, but you can see black and white perfectly fine.

So it's really a case of 3 sets of terms?:
"Black and White"
"Dark and Light"
"Harmful and Beneficial"
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Re: dark magic
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Post # 20
Black and White could easily spur some kind of racial dispute if the person is into that kind of stuff. If you look at it from another view point, they are saying Black is dark, sinister, evil while White is helping, good for you, and healing. lol. Just thought I'd bring this up as I've had a few question me about this.

As you can see from the other poster, that Dark and Light do not necessarily have a specific meaning. It could mean good or bad (matter of perspective) or it could literally mean Dark or Light.

Since no one has argued about harmful or beneficial yet, I'd say this is the best fit until we happen to come upon another term that is "the most correct."
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