Re: Summoning A Ghoul By: WhiteRav3n / Knowledgeable
Post # 12 Jun 02, 2011
to me it looks like an invocation to the constellation Aries. The word "call" could have also been mountain. And Aries is a ram. But the latin was so butchered I did what I could with it.
Aries is associated with mars which is of course the roman god of war. So I would assume that the "dead" here are warriors.
Its probably calling on the power of aries in a graveyard of warriors to ask for protection or power in war. The greeks and pagan romans believed that the stars were fallen warriors. Its probably a latin invocation that has been torn apart through time.
I agree with WhiteRav3n and alot of the other replies I would do a FULL research b4 i go do anything that may have anything to do with the summoning of anything and probably not a great idea to post something like that unless u fully know that it wont cause any damage to anyones life, due to the fact, its possible that somebody thats not too familiar with the field of any kind of magic or dabbling in a field that could cause them trouble could possibly end up hurting themself or someone else especially teenagers that think stuff like this is cool! I have been studying the field of wicca paranormal and even voodoo for 3 years But I stiil will not dabble in something that I have dont have full knowledge of what Im doing and EVERYDAY I read or learn ALL I can and yet still feel like I only scratched the surface!! Just PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHAT U POST!!
Latin is a dead and old language. People use it cuz it looks cool. But if you say it in English you won't have a problem translating.
And don't desturb the dead to do your biding. Only if it is completely necessary should you bug the dead.
( ghoul) means a creature made from flesh and bone. Not a spirit. They are like a zombie that will do what you want. But not without sacrifice.
So make sure you know what most likely will happen before you do something you will regret.
Re: Summoning A Ghoul By: WhiteRav3n / Knowledgeable
Post # 16 Jun 02, 2011
Latin is fine to use when you know the language. I use it quite a lot in magick, partially because I find english a harsher language and in latin it just flows nicer.
Latin isn't "dead" it is very much alive in many languages! English, spanish, french, italian, and portuguese. Just by knowing latin I can understand the main idea of text written in these languages, as well as decipher the root of english words when I am not familiar with its meaning.
I eventually want to pick up greek as well, but I want to master latin first. Latin is a very intuitive language. One word can mean many very different things but you need to pick up what the person was intending, based off of the context used. I enjoy reading latin classics in the original language because most english translations are very calculated and don't give you the same meanings that you will see by reading them yourself. Or even worse! They were translated from latin to another language and then translated to english which butchers many texts.
Many times a specific latin word is used because it has a double meaning and is intended to reflect all definitions. Some words are left out in order to be poetic. But the structure of a sentence in latin is so strong, words can be left out without missing them. This particular latin was fairly straight forward but the sentences and endings were not built properly which made it difficult to read.
It may translate things, but that doesn't mean the translation is accurate...and in the case of your Latin chant it it not. One of the words that is supposedly Latin in your phrase occurs because you misspelled it in the original and the translator thought you meant something else. Two of the words in your Latin translation were never translated and remain in English. Thus what you have is essentially a bit of gibberish that sort of sounds like Latin but means nothing.
I think also it would be helpful if you learned more about what necromancy is. It is not about summoning undead creatures such as ghouls. Necromancy is a form of divination using spirit contacts. The idea of ghouls of zombies arising from the graveyard at the call of a Necromancer is a Hollywood scenario that has nothing to do with the genuine practice of necromancy.
As Brysing suggested, you might want to spend a bit of time researching what you claim to be instead of claiming something you don't fully understand.
By dead I mean you can't learn it from someone who uses it as a first language. Only from text.
And the languages: Italian, French, Spanish, and portchageas ( can't spell it) are all derived from latin. This means they have rrutewords that are Latin but translation may have many errors.
And remember what I sed about ghouls. They can not be summoned unles you can resurrect a dead corps and make it obay. If you can't it's not a ghoul.
