Alchemy is not ancient and never will be, this respectable science still holds many grounds over modern day chemistry today. So you don't think it's important because we all use pharmacies? Did you know there are still apothecaries around the globe to this day, and without elements of today's alchemy modern day chemistry would be chicken scratch. Alchemic brews are entirely more natural and use your own bodies elements instead of pumping you with new ones.
Sorry for double posting, I guess I didn't satisfy my own needs.
Also, the reason why alchemy nowadays seems more like poetry is because practitioners are labeled ludicrous just as much as magic practitioners, so they hide their theories away through such means.
I've personally valuably considered licensing a personal lab just to satisfy my own research rather than to satisfy other's blatant disbelief. Here is my recognition of alchemy in my own poem.
Alchemy
What is more?
Is it needing something to abhor
Is it an opening door
Could it be on the floor
Shall it be to take what I have and appreciate it's mass
Twist and turn it until it blends in with the grass
Is it nature that we cannot nurture
Or nature that we take further
Maybe a light we let into our future
Let it burn until it is greater
Maybe whispering winds that tell a tale
Breathing in oxygen until we do exhale
Taking down a thoughtful note
Until the day people will know why we had it wrote
Finally I conclude that what is more
Is what we let to become
Not what we fight for but that which we keep in home
Weapons are a tool for what we will keep safe
When a war is won we need not replace
For it is more to have that very waste
Just to keep intact what we have kept at our haste
In my studies on this subject I have come across two forms of alchemy. Spiritual alchemy which is the we are the material and shall perfect ourselves. And physical alchemy which influenced chemistry and sought for the stone. My personal belief is the stone could be real as some well known alchemists got rich suddenly and when they were buried the caskets were empty. But we will never know the whole truth
I've been Reading old alchemical books and there's no seperation between spiritual and physical alchemy. Whether you believe it possible or not to have a physical element or not. The truth is in ancient texto ( prior to the 17th century) there is no separation. Thereon many new writers started believing that Alchemy was much more intelectual than physical and even denied any claims that such a thing as a Stone Capable of granting Immortality and Turning metals into higher perfection possible were metaphores for spiritual development...
Before that everything that I read about the quest and the Stone itself makes it clear that ( according to those sources) The spiritual ( Metaphysical) and Substance (Physical) cannot be separated, thus there wouldn't be any separation between Physical alchemy and Spiritual Alchemy. One cannot master one level without the other. The gap appeared in late writings .
It doesn't matter whether it's physically possible to create such a thing as a Philosopher's stone. to be Honest it's not even a stone.according to the lore. what matters is the knowledge one gains while studying it.
The most fascinating thing is how many authors used Alchemy to write their masterpieces.
About real spiritual alchemy is good book The secret of the golden Flower. Taoist spiritual alchemy book. Translantion by Richard Willhelm. And for comparison is good literature about chakrayoga, but tranlantion original eastern texts, not fictions our western "experts". For example Gheranda samhita, Shiva samhita, Sat chakra nirupana and so on.
But there are another terms. For example chakra Ajna in yoga is the Heavenly heart in The secret of the golden flower.....
Re: Ancient Alchemy By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 23 Feb 15, 2016
The corpses found in the Franklin house were part of early, illegal, anatomical research. Whether Franklin was even aware of this occurring is debatable. Hewson Hunter, a notable pioneer in the early field of human anatomical research (and grave robbing), was a tenant in the Franklin House. This is far more probable, and logical, than any leaps to "Oh my god, Ben Franklin was a Satanist."
There was no separation between spiritual and physical alchemy because the sciences did not, at first, see a difference between spiritual "sciences" and the physical. Any science at all was generally attributed to alchemy, as there were few distinct classifications in the fields of learning; indeed there was almost no classification to speak of, and those that existed were varied depending on the source.
The division between spiritual and physical alchemy occurred as science became more formalized and structured. Eventually spirituality became something wholly different, and alchemy simply became science. Why? Because science offers observable evidence while spirituality does not.
It always amuses me when people claim that ancient Alchemists were trying to get gold from "base2 metals. That was not quite the case. In order to understand the "ancient" thinking about what they saw, you have to understand what they were looking at; before microscopes! Let's take gold.It is a "pure" right? No, it isn't!
Gold can range from the deep and dull "orange", to almost pure white; because of the "impurities" in the raw metal.
Now, if the ancient Alchemist arranged his "samples" of gold from dull to bright; it would seem to him that gold actually "grew" in stages!
And that is what the ancient Alchemist was trying to do! Not to change base metal into gold; but to "grow" gold!
And in the days before microscopes you cannot blame them for that belief!
If you read the original writings though it's far more than that. They weren't actually using metals to change other metals. Most writings cannot be taken literally and things like Mercury, Sulfur and other references are nothing more than metaphors.
Whether you believe in it or Not Changing metals into gold was actually a purpose. At the time they thought that All metals aside from gold weren't perfect yet.
Alchemy is seen as te science that accalerates nature. Alchemists believed that they were just making metals achieve their highest potencial. According to Alchemical lore all metals are the same, only at different stages of perfection. Some unininitiated would indeed dilute metals thinking they were making more gold... but it is specifically stated in most writings that the gold obtained from the Work is purer than any other gold and has no impurities in it. Whether or not that was ever possible to achieve is debatable but they were at the time based on weight and certain other techniques to accurately determine the purity of a certain metal
