I didn't misunderstand him. I was stating the fact that what he was saying was his belief. He was stating it like it was a fact. It might be a fact to him, but it isnt to everyone. I was stating that different people have different beliefs.
Re: 3 fold law alternative By: RashnuX. / Beginner
Post # 23 Jan 24, 2012
Whether or not Karma is real....it IS a fact that is has to do with the next life and is NOT punishment or reward in this life. That, based on the theory of karma, is a fact.
You are trying to argue that Karma is just a belief. And you are right. However, Bard spoke of what Karma IS. What the idea of it, written many many many years ago, is about. Not whether it was real.
He was commenting that the definition of karma being used in this thread is incorrect. Not that the belief in it is valid or not.
WitchRoyu-thank you.
and RashnuX. , how can you say something is a fact? do you KNOW that there is more thn one life? can you prove it? it is not a fact if it has not been proven. it is something of belief. just because it was written that way thousands of years ago doesnt make it correct.
And this will be my last post on this forum (for now, but at least on this specific topic) because i find it pointless to argue about. I don't feel like wasting energy on a 'conversation' that will benefit me in no way, and benefit others in no way. good bye and blessed be.
Hundreds of years ago did we know Mt.Everest was the largest mountain? No, but that doesn't make it less true. Just because something isn't proven doesn't mean its not true. Unless you have studied karma for a while I recommend not saying things about it. Also, you're being a hypocrite to yourself true. You say beliefs are beliefs, yet you trashed many peoples beliefs on this thread. Please, think before you speak these things.
Re: 3 fold law alternative By: Personified / Knowledgeable
Post # 29 Jan 24, 2012
Truecat: As Rash has already tried explaining, Bard's comment was on the definiton or principle of karma. Your belief in karma does not matter in this case. What he stated was a fact.
Here is the definition of karma from the free online dictonary:
1. Hinduism & Buddhism The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny in his/her next incarnation.
Under that definition, what Bard stated was factually accurate.
Alright, I will post one more time.... I didn't say that because it wasnt proven, its not true. I said because it hasn't been proven, its not a fact. those are two different things. And it is true, beliefs are beliefs, and i think that every one has their right to believe what they believe. I do not mean to be disrespectful. I have a logical mind, and when people say something is a fact, well, there has to be proof for it to be called a fact, but, I don't even see where I am disrespectful, So I am sorry if I seem disrespectful... I truly am. I think that what people believe is true to them. What I believe is true for me, and I think everyone has the right to believe what they believe. Thing is, not all of it is true, but I also believe that its impossible to know some things in this life, so we believe what makes sense to us. I don't mean to trash anyones beliefs, but I do have my own, but I also recognize that my beliefs could be wrong. Some i know are true because I have seen evidence, but hey, its possible that it is just true for me. I dont know exactly how the universe works, and I never will which is why you will never find me saying that someone's belief is wrong, unless it is a fact that they are wrong, which is very few times. In this forum, I was not saying that karma is definitely in this life, or definitely not in another life, or definitely exists (though I truly believe it does), or that it definitely doesnt exist. I was merely stating that we dont know for a fact whether our actions in this life affect us in this life or not.
Forgive me, I am not so great with words, but I think I expressed what I am trying to say.
Blessed be everyone.
