3 fold law alternative

I agree with truecat. Just because in an ancient belief states that karma affects us in our next life, doesn't mean that it actually does. It would be true to those who follow those beliefs, but it doesnt make it a fact. I think that's what true is trying to say? I don't think they mean to be disrespectful.
I hope this helps.

It is a fact because you are using the Buddhist/Hindu term therefore you can't just change that word to mean anything you deam fit. We have set definitions for words to create unity and clarity in language.

If you mean something different than Karma, don't use the word Karma. Simple as that. If you mistook the definition of the word, that is what Bard and Rashnux were clearing up. And a simple "I learned something new" or "thank you, I didn't know that" would suffice. Becoming defensive and argumentative doesn't create a very friendly learning environment. When something about a religious principle is brought up incorrectly, it should be corrected. We are all here to share and learn from each other.

First, WhiteRav3n, i wish to say that i respect you and think you add a lot to this site.
and second, the dictionary defines karma in two different ways:
1. (in Hinduism and Buddhism) The sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in...
2. Destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.
It isn't necessarily just in different lives as I have learned my entire life, and those who have taught me the definition (those much older than myself and those with much more experience). Karma doesnt necessarily mean in a different life, although I can see you're point and what I guess the other people were saying. The origin of the word is that it affects you in your next life, and is still often used that way, but it is also often used in a way that means this life. The meaning of a word can change over time. There are many words that used to mean completely different things from when they first originated.
The issue with creating another word is that everyone (or many) know that karma is a cause and affect of the deeds you do. not everyone thinks of karma as existing in different lives. Some people who believe in 'karma' dont believe in more than one lives (I do not know whether I believe in multiple lives or not, i believe it is possible, but I have not yet reached a conclusion I am satisfied with).
But thank you WhiteRav3n for explaining what you think they said, you explained it simply and directly in a way I was able to comprehend. I will think about that when I use the word karma again on this site, and I will specify that how I use the word is that you're actions have effects on you whether it is in this life or not.

I'm happy to have helped. =)

By the way, when I stated what karma was it wasn't my personal belief, it's the belief in the Hindu and Indian religions. I've studied Hinduism, Buddhism (Theravada, Zen, and Tibetan), and many other religions a my university. Karma today is used incorrectly by Westerners who don't understand the religion. Say you did only bad in this life, in the next they believe that you may reincarnate into a lower form of being or receive lots of bad in the next life.

Karma isn't fate as many branches on Hinduism believe in free will in humans. I think karma is mystified and made out to be some force out to get you when this isn't the case at all. Karma is a way of understanding cause and effect. Taking the next life out of it, and it can be described as our choices. We are all responsible for our actions and each action we take leads us somewhere. If you commit a murder, then you may be caught and arrested. That is the effect of your action, simple as that. It's meant to help us to understand that we as individuals are all responsible for our own actions and decisions. In my opinion people these days tend to use karma as a scapegoat and blame it as some supernatural force, all while missing the lesson behind it. Ironic since doing that isn't taking responsibility for your actions.


I'm not giving my own personal opinion, but the belief of an established religion.

Also, no one is stating that the existence of karma is fact. Obviously it's a belief and as it's not a physical phenomenon it cannot be proven by scientific process. What we are stating is that it is a fact that this is what karma is described as and believed to be in Hinduism and Buddhism, where the concept was created. You missed the point of it.

The world of magic see no right or wrong, good or evil. Its a mirror that only reflect what you put in front of it.

I totally disagree with Nightmarekid.. I believe entirely in ''harm none''. But... To each his own.

So Pheonixx7, you disagree with me. Ok, their is nothing wrong with that, but, let me ask you this.

What would you do if a group of men brutally murdered your family and friends (now, the possibilities of this is so slim that most would consider it impossible, but there is always that very small chance), what would you do?

What would you do if a group of men brutally murdered your family and friends (now, the possibilities of this is so slim that most would consider it impossible, but there is always that very small chance), what would you do?

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I wouldn't be able to take down a "group of men who bruttally murdered my family." Also, they would probably would go to prison. They would probably get killed in prison. I wouldn't cast a spell for them to be killed in prison, or anything like that. But I would do my best to make sure that the police find them, and that the court decides to put them behind bars. What happens behind those bars is none of my control.