Okay guys, quick question (yet again). Okay, is it possible to distort time (stop, fast foward, rewind)? If so, what's the spell? Any contradictions on the subject?
I heard someone say that if you have stopped time, you would not remember because you yourself would only remember what you saw because you were frozen in time, also, but, if you put a protection spell on yourself, (one that conceals you from any magick) wouldn't that stop you from being trapped in your own spell?
Re: Time Distortion By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 2 May 04, 2011
If you tried to fast forward or reverse time, you would effectively do so for everything that move through the same space as you (the universe). If you did succeed in it then there is no way for you to not also be impacted by it, outside of theories of parallel space and time where there are alternate possibilities.
That being said, magic doesn't really work like that. It can alter your perception of time, and through residual energies you can view the past through various methods or otherwise explore the possibilities of the future, and so forth. Unfortunately I have not seen any of the spells on this site address it in a decent manner, but then the concept itself is rather convoluted and confused. But in altering your perception of the past you will not change it. What has been is simply what is. You may change what you will, as that is defined within the choices you make now. At best, time magic is useful for gaining a better understanding of the nature of the universe and the many planes. At worst, you're better off exploring some other magical practice.
I have used magic to make the time go faster. I did not need a spell to get it to work. Its about having the right Mental attitude. You need a startline and a goal. Put all your mental energy to rush the desired results. When I work I use this mental magic. I dont understand why you would want to slow down time or stop it. When you use time magic, it affects the people around you very strongly. People who live near me remarks how they feel that time flies. I have never tried to slow time, and I think its impossible to stop time.
Re: Time Distortion By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 4 May 04, 2011
The mental attitude is debatable magic. It can be argued that it creates the energy and the "magic" by itself, but then time just seems to fly when you're busy and keeping focused at the task at hand rather than watching the clock.
Re: Time Distortion By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 6 May 04, 2011
That's part of the arguable part. Perhaps it's the energy that your mood and intent creates that is affecting others; you project it and they pick up on it and they feel as though everything is sped up.
It is also entirely possible that it is just a psychological result of people just taking your lead and picking up on your pace, or otherwise reacting to your attitude.
Since time is relative in and of itself, you would have to understand it without the bonds that we put to it. Seconds do not exist, neither do minutes or hours or days. That being said, for you to actually stop it and not be affected, you would have to remove yourself from it first. This is not possible to my knowledge (not saying impossible, I just have never heard of any way to do it and have never been crazy enough to try to find a way). Once you were out of time, you would then have to re-enter at the point in which you chose. Basically, the only way I could see it happening is if you did the time machine theory without the time machine, and considering that time machines don't exist....at least not in our time...I don't see how it would ever be achievable.
On another note, if you did succeed in removing yourself from time, you must consider that once outside of time, you could very likely get stuck. Without time, how are we to affect things, for we are not connected to it. You couldn't set a failsafe on the spell either to bring you back in after a certain amount of time either because you are no longer a part of time.
In my opinion, it is like playing single play russian roulette....not very smart or good for your health.
Is it not the man how created time? Humans can control everything that we have created. The way we experience time is relative.
Time passes at different rates in different locations in space.
The very creation is a black mystery. Humans try to control the incomprehensible through time, but if you look at it in perspective, time is not a complete reality. Time is a theory that we choose to live by. Therefore I belive that you can use your time the way you want, and manipulate it.
Time is more than a theory. It is a shared knowledge by the entire human race. Simply put, the time you percieve is the same as the time I would percieve, even if our opinions differed. Measuring time is what you are saying is our creation of time. Whether or not we ever measured it or not, it would still be there, slipping through the fingers of all who grasp at it.
Anything is possible, but that doesn't mean everything is possible to achieve by ones self.
Re: Time Distortion By: AwakeTooLong / Knowledgeable
Post # 10 May 07, 2011
In terms of physics, time is also quite bound to space. If you move through space time elapses. For time to sit still, you must sit still. It is not necessarily just a figment or invention of man. It is not the ticking of a lock. It is an actual measurement of the universe around us.
And physics certainly govern the world around us. It has nothing to do with being a man made science.
By the same token, if you examine something as a whole... as one piece, time does not necessarily exist. In reading a book you understand each page, one by one. As you take the time to do so, you understand the book and can put its collection of ideas and stories together in one whole lump sum. However, the book exists entirely at any given time. Were you able to simply view the book and understand all of its contents, the measurement of time would be irrelevant to the book. Largely because you wouldn't have to move through the space within it (its pages).
People, the universe, etc. are much the same. To understand and experience them we must spend time with them, and move distances with them. Alternatively, if we can understand them in one lump sum (the assumption of which is often erroneous or dangerous) then the time becomes unnecessary. The same can be said of the world in general. And one you can understand something as a lump sum, you can also understand and view the aspects of its past and where it may be within the future - just as if you could understand a book simply by looking at the whole book, you would know the beginning and end without having to travel through its pages.
Time magic, from what I've seen, involves this perception. It does not shorten distances, it does not shorten lengths of time as it effects all thing around you, it simply alters your perception of it, allowing you to view it as a whole or even in narrower moments so that it feels as though it is taking more time, moving faster, or otherwise allowing you to view moments elsewhere within time and space.
Otherwise, go talk conjure up Jules Verne and see what he can do about helping you create a time machine to actually move through this aspect of space and time. If you wanted to go back, or forward, you'd have to go back not just to an older day, but to a different location... The universe expands, the planets and stars shift, move, and rotate, the earth changes... Good luck pinpointing the exact location you're looking for in space time. Especially if you believe scientific theories are just the invention of men and therefore unnecessary.
The New Age community latches whole-heartedly on nonsensical belief that was previously only used to describe concepts that weren't understood - and were then later abandoned in favor of an actual understanding of the particular subject matter. This is science. It blends perfectly with magic and faith, as those parts of magic that we practice are simply those aspects of science that still lack explanation. Don't foolishly dismiss other aspects of wisdom simply because you view them as being contrary to what you wish to be magically possible.