One of my freinds who knows of my deep interest in Lovecraftian/Cthulhu Mythos related occultism as well as my interest in Druidry suggested I should do something diffrent by blending the two into a form of Lovecraftian Druidry.
Re: Lovecraftian Druidry??? By: Lark Moderator / Adept
Post # 2 Feb 23, 2015
I would not think that the two would blend at all. Their aims are quite different and the Gods they worship are different as well. Even modern Druidty sticks to the Gods and Goddesses of the ancient Celts while Lovecraft invented his so-called "Elder Gods".
Lets just all stop and make our own religions! Ever heard ofnapropriation? This is one pf the worst forms of it. The idea of mixing a fiction and an old religion that have no connection is somewhat offensive.
We all appropriate to some degree, taking ideas from other cultures. But that seems a bit overboard.
I sympathise with chaos magick in the sense that their argument is that at some point all deities were created, as were all systems.
However, I don't see the point of or need to use fiction. I just can't help but think it is to be different, or stand out. What is more is where do you draw the line, should we worship DUmbledore as the God of Wisdom, Voldemort as the destroyer God, Hagrid as the God of strength?
I am not a fan of pop culture paganism. If you wish to create your own path, don't borrow the name of another.
I use lovecraft because it's fun. In a ritual that I'd use, say, Cthulhu in, I would not be too concerned with results. They are usually disappointing. I simply think it's amusing to take something with such an overdone dark and chaotic essence and play with it.
Basically, it's a game with real world consequences for me. Now, with such things you have to be careful and try to do things as safely as possible, but that's true for all magic. This sort of thing is just better suited for results that you could live with not receiving, or receiving in a weak, watered down and possibly ironic way.
Praying to fictional deities, invoking fictional names, or enacting fictional rituals will not change or effect anything of the real world, and the only consequences that may follow would be a misled study.
No where did I say i was going to blend the two together.
But i'd like to say this as long as the Cthulhu Mythos have been read thought about games played,people working rituals,and magick in the names of the mythos entities,these entities have pertty much become real on the astral plane,but it pertty much amazes me how people can and will say they believe that egregores ,thoughtforms,etc etc can be created intentionally as well as unintentionally and yet meantion the Cthulhu Mythos and there is a Knee jerk reaction out of them that turns them and they start claiming they are strictly fictional and do everything they can to reject and cause others to reject the fact that they have by no taken substance on the astral plane.
the fact is Occultust,wiccans etc etc thorugh attempts at denial are opposing the Mythos entities asd much as any magick weilding protaganist in any Mythos story,the only thing is that as long as you have occultists of every stripe doing rituals,people reading the mythos stories,and playing Mythos related games in the real world their existance in the astral plane is assured,opposition to their existance is by now late in the game so to speak.
From your first post= " I should do something diffrent by blending the two into a form of Lovecraftian Druidry"
You did mention blending the two together.
What is more is that I did say they have an argument, however, the fact of the matter is what is a fictional character vs what is a god?
Everything an be real on the astral plane, it is not that impressive. Your imagination is real on the astral plane. It is the expression of the force on a Atziluthic and Briatic plane of existence which would be impressive.
A thoughtform/character is all well and good, and you should do what you want. However I would like to propose the following thought;
Kenneth Grant who sympathised with the Lovecraft occult movement, and was probably the first to propose such comparisons defined a God as follows;
" A god is technically an energy-aggregate of colossal concentration. When a vastly coagulated series of acts, performed under will, achieve cosmic magnitude, a "god" is born."
Now I don't know about Lovecraft too much, but I just can't see how a bunch of fictional characters fit in with that definition.