Following that opinion, that means that magic is also not real. The reason being that we believe in magic but have no physical proof for it. A belief isn't always true as you said.
I agree with Blue, the board is real and all depends on the nature of the person, belief, faith, will, etc..
Re: Quija board dangers! By: Brysing Moderator / Adept
Post # 12 May 24, 2015
ProNine, magic is not a belief; it is a reality. I have worked with magic all my life. I can demonstrate magic; and I have done so to many Pagan groups over the years. However, let me say this, I have never met anybody who could show me a demon;or a fairy,or an angel,or a God, or a goblin, or any of that sort of creature.No ghosts, no spirits. They are beliefs! Magic isn't.
Now, if anybody can show me a Ouija board where the planchette moves by itself, with nobody touching it, then I will believe in it. Until then, I stick with what I say; it's a toy!
Brysing excatly the same rates to you! There are people who say they dot believe in God because they don't have matterial prove or anything about it. That is wrong. God is living inside us, so do magic, so do ouija boards, so do everything that is not matterial. We don't have to see it in front of us to believe it.
Of course, some will not and some will believe it. But how are you so sure, that only you, you are the correct and the people who claime the same thing? People who have worked for so many-many years, now how the spirituralism works and the spirits-entities-demons ouija boards and everything. They understand that.
A Ouija board is about as powerful a tool even in the most accomplished of magickians as a Monopoly board. Conjure the almighty Monopoly dude he will steal your soul is the same level of ignorance as 'Use a Ouia and Satan will kill you' or whatever it is the WiccaChristians tell the kids these days
Brysing, we understood that you are trying to conveice us that isn't real, or show your-self I don't know, but that won't change the the situation of our believe about that! So many people claim that is real..they probaby know something. And I mean from those who knows magic. You will tell me, that people out there are way more that those who believe to ouija boards. Yeah, because those peope have no idea about the magic and all these. If you go to science and tell him that magic exists, they will churn you crazy.
Here is a link to the history of the Ouija board. It comes from a site I trust, at least, I trust it more than most personal experiences and SoM member explanations.
Lightning, you know that your and Brysing's definition of magic, is two completely different things? I assume that you believe as the majority of magicians. That magic is making subtle changes of things, through manipulation of energies. This is the most well used definition.
But Brysing's magic is simply "changing one thing, into something entirely different". That means that from his perspective most things most people see as magic, has nothing to do with magic.
Which means that to him Ouija boards are just toys, spirits, demons etc, don't exist. Because they can't be proven. It also means that magic is very much provable to Brysing, and those that share his beliefs.
