Light, everyone has the right to comment. This is a public forum and I'm sure Shirou wouldn't have posted if he didn't want to hear from other people. Show some respect to others and their opinions.
The Philadelphia experiment was one of invisibility, not teleportation. Various claims involve the possibility that the ship was actually teleported, but for the most part all such "evidence" is merely conjecture and hearsay. The entire case for the teleportation of the ship revolves around the testimony of a single man. He may be correct, he may be truthful, but he may also be stock raving mad. That, in my opinion and most other schools of thought, is spotty evidence.
It was suggested that making a psi ball manifest in a new location was presented as teleportation. Therefore within that definition instantaneously manifesting your spirit elsewhere (astral travel) would also be teleportation. Performing such feats with energy, or on the spiritual level, is rather easy. As you said yourself, transferring matter in the same concept is not.
I'm not saying that Teleportation is impossible. In truth, the possibility of it is backed by a lot of theoretical physics. Unfortunately due the the complexity it is simply pointless to bother trying to do it through willpower alone. It would take less energy to simply get up and walk. After all, even in the Phillidelphia experiments vague case study it is suggested that the sailors involved suffered from injuries, mental illness, and other such unpleasantness. A plane ticket sounds a lot easier and safer, even if you were capable of transfering your own matter elsewhere, keeping it correctly arranged, and otherwise navigate space time in a manner that doesn't leave you cruelly stuck within an inanimate object.
If you or somebody else IS capable of this and somehow hasn't been coerced into cooperation with various well-funded and powerful organizations in the world (or otherwise been contained and used as an elaborate science experiment), I'm still waiting for the proof. If they can teleport an entire ship, well... I have a perfectly good porch. A nice open space without complication. Teleport there and I'll invite you in for dinner.
If teleportation were possible, why would we need airplanes, boats, ships, spaceships, cars, trains? We would just be able to think our way to anywhere. No need for fuel, traffic jams, body searches.
Maybe in the astral plane, but for now, in the physical, it's not possible.
The original objective was invisibility using technology Nikola Tesla invented, and in the first try it was succesfull, the vanished out of thin air at the push of a button, the 2nd try they wanted to do it with a crew, to which Nikola Tesla objected and was removed. Unfortunately for them the experiment was lying on a "magnetic disturbance" area (like the Bermuda triangle, there are 14 "bermuda triangles" on earth). The result was them being teleported, and when they came back they were out of sync, the result of that being that a part of the crew was materialized, embedded in the hull of the ship.
A psi ball is a part of the physical world, and u teleport it in the physical world, astral travel is done with your astral body, and it travels, it doesnt teleport around, and its in the astral world. U really think they will release this technology and knowledge into the public, well after all it was an accident.
The most any human has ever been able to do is teleport a short distance, and after doing it he becomes very disoriented.
Why do people when something is brought up either deny it or question why it cant be done like in movies.
Nobody is questioning why it can't be done like in the movies, at least not that I saw.
Further, a psi ball has impact upon the physical world but so too can a spirit. Psi energy isn't so different than the energies of the spirit. It's just a different method of manifestation. Further, within astral travel you don't need to move the distance. You can, for lack of better word, teleport, your spirit to where you wish it to be.
Once again, I agree with the concept of teleportation. And yes, I realize that such accidents are not widely released. However give the hundreds of people involved I find the fact that all evidence is rooted in one man's testimony somewhat suspect. This is not denial of the possibility that the Philadelphia experiment was not as you said it was, it is simply intelligent debate so don't get all angsty.
To further discuss the matter however, I don't believe the ship was reported to have vanished in thin air the first time. It was said to have instead become obscured, as though in mist. In later testing was where it vanished and appeared in Virginia for a few moments before going back to the harbor facilities in Philly. If testimonies are to be believed it resulted in various injuries, mental disorders, etc. among the sailors involved.
Even if a human can teleport a short distance it hardly seems worth the effort. That is and was my point. It is also largely why such efforts were, visibly, abandoned. Not to say some smaller scale experimentation does not still take place.
There are 7 types of energy. Psi energy is different from zero-point energy (energy of a spirit as u call it).
Why is it not worth the effort.
U think the caveman thought that hitting two rocks together to make a spark is not worth the effort?
Before we can advance teleportation for something usefull, we need to change the collective consciousness. But before it can be, humanity needs to wake up. We need to teach other people how this world really works, im afraid by looking at this forum i have found very very few awakened people. Most dont even understand the basics even though they think they do.
Sry i got a little off topic at the end, and im sorry if i offended anyone.
I'm saying it's not worth it because exerting yourself to exhaustion and risking mental/physical injury to move a few feet seems ridiculous when one can simply take a single step to accomplish the same end.
I'm all for advancement and such. And I do see what you're saying with the various kinds of energy. But all of that boils down to semantics. Light is broken down into wavelengths and colors, but it is still just light. Break energy down into various kinds of energy and it is still just energy. Teleport a psi ball and it is still teleportation, just as is the teleportation of matter. And this leaves astral travel as a base form of teleportation. Spiritually energy as you interpret it would then just be another wavelength, so to speak. If you can do one you can do all of them... because they are the same thing.
However, taking a single step seems a somewhat more intelligent method of traveling that slight distance.
On a different note, you must keep in mind that this site caters to a wide range of faiths, magical practices, etc. We're not all going to agree. One man's version of awakening may not be the same as yours. And we can all tell each other we're wrong. As long as we don't get belligerent about it. Which, I admit, I suck at.
The idea that a caveman would strike two rocks together in the hope of making a spark is hardly likely. Stone-age humans used flint. Striking a flint could very well result in a spark; but that would be accidental.
Brysing i was just trying to make a point that advancement is always worth the effort.
+Accidents nor coincidences dont exist.
I didnt mean just this site, i meant the world, it just sickens me to see most of this world live as slaves. And we all should have the same knowledge of how this world works since we live in the same world, we just achieve it differently, but the knowledge is the same.
