My point is that while this story might fool the average person, lying about magick to magicians is a pretty poor idea.
And seriously, if you really truly had "rivals that would kill to have [your] secrets" you wouldn't be talking about them on an extremely popular public forum, and you sure as heck wouldn't have your age and city of residence in your profile. And again, if this group made a habit of initiating 16 year old youths this eager to dance as close to revealing their secrets as possible, they wouldn't have remained secret for a month, to say nothing for centuries.
I'm not trying to be mean, but I can't really think of a nice way to say "literally nothing you've said makes sense, sounds plausible, or has proof."
When i said secrets i in no where in my sentece mentioned the acuall name of the secrets when one does not say the objects true name its still a secret for its ture nature is unknown sorry if i sound like from high school bookworm. you can blab about what the object is and not say the real name and it still will be a secret.
Your right i agree with you but some things need proof and at the same time there are things that dont need nor even have proof. Somtimes people need to take a leap of faith regardless how much nonescese it emits. yes i known its from Assassin's Creed but in many ways its semily true.
"When i said secrets i in no where in my sentece mentioned the acuall name of the secrets when one does not say the objects true name its still a secret for its ture nature is unknown sorry if i sound like from high school bookworm. you can blab about what the object is and not say the real name and it still will be a secret."
Not necessarily true. If I hint at my name in enough ways, enough times, you'll eventually figure out that my name is Miles even if I never come flat out and say "My name is Miles." If I were attempting to keep my name secret and you, by merit of the things I say, figure it out, I have failed at keeping that secret. That I didn't directly and immediately spoon-feed it to you in the form of "My name is Miles" in no way detracts from that.
I am again not trying to be mean, but you seriously do not appear to understand what it means to be oathbound.
"Your right i agree with you but some things need proof and at the same time there are things that dont need nor even have proof."
I suppose "evidence" would be a more accurate term than "proof" in this case, but I'd still like to know where in the world you got this idea from. You may also wish to take a few minutes to google "burden of proof."
"Somtimes people need to take a leap of faith regardless how much nonescese it emits."
Just to be absolutely clear, a "leap of faith" is defined as being an act or instance of accepting or trusting in something that cannot readily be seen or proved. A leap of faith is therefore incompatible with being rational and sounds like a terrible thing to combine with science.
"yes i known its from Assassin's Creed but in many ways its semily true."
Hey classy. Maybe you should get your information from, like, a book or something?
I have one issue with this whole thing that I read beyond what Chiron said. You claim to be holding an oath that prevents you from speaking about your coven directly or about the magic that they do...yet the coven's name includes "warlock". The meaning of the term warlock is that one is an oath-breaker, a breaker of the coven's sanctity and secrecy. An oath-breaker is not one to take oaths seriously.
Your coven's very name breaks part of the way it runs.
Look at the illuminati for example depending on what u think if they exsits or not people think they do but really dont there is not enough evidnce to proov they exsits. We have the same deal we are open now and then but people dont think we really exsist becuase as u said i dont have proof what i getting at here is the way we operate is blareing out ourselves now and then in works as to cause confusion with that nothing can really be done to proov its one of the perfect covers, You following any of what im trying to say.
We follow exactly - you have no idea what you're talking about and your lies therefore make no freaking sense (Draiocht's pointing out the meaning of "Warlock" for example).
Hasn't it occurred to you at all that, while "I'm a member of the Night Owls Coven of Warlocks" might sound cool, those kinds of lies are going to very much get in the way of you learning magick? They not only cloud your perceptions and clutter your mind, but they tend to drive actual magicians away (there's a reason why this thread is so empty even though "are you in a magical group?" is a normal and legitimate question).
PS, the Illuminati refers to the Bavarian Illuminati (many other groups have since been called by the title "Illuminati") and we totally know the date it was founded (May 1, 1776), who founded it (Adam Weishaupt) and we know several members (such as Thelemic saint, Wolfgang von Goethe).
It was totally real and we totally have proof for it. So congrats on speaking of yet another thing you clearly don't know about.
OK DUDE I THINK THE BAD SIDE OF CURIOSITY WHICH STARTED THIS IS GETTING ON BOTH US AND I THINK WE SHOULD STOP BE END UP SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT. OKAY TRUCE?
Writing in all caps is against the rules, and only you are shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm talking about logic and reason and history. You're talking about non-researched fiction and trying to sell it as fact. I'm also not finding anything in this thread which really pertains to "curiosity," so I found that just a little baffling and odd.
And finally, you cannot call a truce with reality. What is true will continue to be true no matter how much you lie, no matter how much you beg people to stop telling you about it. If you really seek peace in this then accept the limits of what you do and do not currently know and then seek to expand them legitimately through study.
