Also, does God not give gifts to his people? Magick and Christianity are not good and evil. I think thank magick done through the power of God is a large part of Christianity. Catholics call upon the saints. Protestants have their prayers. Its still magick, just done through God. And calling upon an angel for protection is something that Catholics do all the time.
Re: magic is a lie? By: Arcadian
Post # 24 Mar 27, 2012
On my opinion,Christianity is an offspring religion of Judaism,and Islamism an offspring religion of Christianity.
Judaism accepts magic,while both Christianity and Islam do not.
Also,the accounts written on Lucifer are only half of the original Jewish stories.
The story of Lucifer is originally,same story as Prometheus':
Lucifer was a great angel and loved humans so much,he gave them the only thing God didn't:The ability to think.God wanted humans to follow their instinct and obey the orders of God.For that,he was banned.
Some Greek myths seem to derive from Jewish ones,that are much older.
This aspect of Archangel Lucifer might have been removed from the later Bible/Qur'an so that there were no similiarities between Lucifer&Prometheus.
Note that in Judaism,God isn't merciful or kind,which is seen also in the accounts over Moses,when God killed all Egyptian boys.Christianity does not separate itself from these accounts and calls the same work of Jewish God work of Christian God as Moses is introduced as a prophet of God in Bible.
Re: magic is a lie? By: SpellcasterI
Post # 25 Mar 29, 2012
Magic is 'very' real.....
Re: magic is a lie? By: Thebright
Post # 26 Mar 31, 2012
Christian priests don't know snap about Magick. The priest never did any of that. He's just trying to scare you into being Christian.
Your pastor sounds very unprofessional for saying such blunt things. If he were trying to convince you how wrong magick is, I find it odd that he would recoil from your protective charm. It sends a mixed message about his/their path being the higher one... apparently a path too easily tempted/pushed from.
If you're unsure where you stand, at least don't be bullied into anything. If you find comfort in your magick, don't deny that. Do you feel guilty about what you are doing? Let it be between you and God; maybe ask him for a sign?
Or you could just lie and say you don't believe in magick anymore.It'll cause more stress,but once you get trust you can practice more openly,and like what white said, Christianity borrows heavily from magick, and pagainism.Heck everything borrows from magick, just as science and magick are so similar and plus,when he said "I'd wake up in the middle of the night floating" he was either improvising to convert you,or astral projecting or just plain dreaming.
Re: magic is a lie? By: freethinker7
Post # 29 Mar 31, 2012
Thats what i did
Re: magic is a lie? By: Grg.Legend
Post # 30 Mar 31, 2012
Well, this is my first post in a while but lets move on. Magick is not evil nor is it good. Magick is energy and everything around us is energy. All religions have forms of magick themselves in different ways and veiws. Christianty and other religions have used many things with magick. Like: Gratitude and/or The Law of Attraction. The Christians even say that if you have gratitude the more things you will receive, but with no gratitude you'll lose things. Ask your pastor, "Isn't the miracles Jesus did was magick?" I think yes because he used the power/energy of the Universe or some say God through him. Even the bible saids he says "Thank you" either before or after he does miracles and that itself is gratitude. Remember that there are many different religions in the world and all is not bad. Take time and sit down with your family and pastor to explain different religions and views of magick. Explain to them things like, Jesus or how the religion of wicca is based on a Goddess. I hoped this helps you.
Demons?? ROFLMMFAO!! Please... Practicing most forms of magic do not summon demons. Demons just simply can't be bothered with you humans to be quite honest - they have more fun and important things to do. Unless someone has done something really wrong and has created a major offense, you will NEVER see a demon in your lifetime.
Now intentionally summoning them - that's a horse of a different colour. Using necromancy - the true necromantic arts, will garner attention thrown in your attention but usually from a different group and not the demonic hordes :) But unless you have a license to practice this art, stay away from it. The same can be said about demon summoning. Unless you have an intimate connection with them, and you will know if you do or not, don't bother them. They're like the angels in the respect that they really don't like to be bothered unless it's really important. And if you have it in your tiny brain to think that, "oh, it's an angel, I can summon them, they're of the 'light' they're good..." Think again. They'll smite your ass just as fast as a demon will for bothering them for nonsense.
Children today thinking they can just play around with forces that have existed long before your species has walked this planet. That have existed before the concept of time and space existed. Sigh...