Re: Christian spells
By: Spirit76 / Novice
Post # 4
Nov 22, 2023
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For that I would simply suggest prayer, as it is the cornerstone on Christian methodology. Though there is Kabbalistic work that involves a short of spell or ritual process as well. For example there is a form of Hebrew magic, which is an Abraham's practice and so could be considered Christian ... depending on how narrow your interpretation is.
One thing to bear in mind is that there is more overlap than the average person realizes between the processes of prayer and magic. Both can be elaborately ritualistic, Both are largely based on the influence of gaining help/support through an immaterial higher/divine outside force, and Both are fueled through spiritual study and observation and relating it to the practical events around us. The elements are so interchangeable that you can learn from one by studying the other.
For example, if you want a good, applicable, and reliable formula for building a spell or prayer/appeal? Examine the lord's prayer. As simple and prevalent as it is, few people seem to understand why it isso effective. They just treat it like a car; Dunno how it works, I just hit the pedal and it moves forward really fast. And yet a great many people depend on them despite not knowing anything more than 'gas goes in, car goes vroom'.
Our Lord, who art in heaven; Identify who/what you are calling to.
Hallowed be thy name; Offer respect and recognition.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven; Recognize the purview, authority, and responsibilities/governance of who you are calling on.
Give us our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. lead us not into temptation, and deliver us from evil; Make your request/state the goal of your appeal. Define what you want.
For yours is the power and glory, for ever and ever, amen; Close the appeal by recognizing their influence and saying "thank-you."
The prayer has changed slightly over the years, but it was given not just as a prayer, but literal instruction on -how to- pray.
Learning magic is not dissimilar. Learning spells to cast is one thing, with many styles and methods and centers of worship or study. The trick, though, is digging in and understanding -how to- cast. Figure that out, understand it, and you can apply that formula to whatever faith you want. In that regard, Christian prayer and Wiccan spell become essentially one and the same. Because it becomes not just the actions you choose but where you choose to direct them.
To flip the coin, We've seen how a Christian prayer can apply to magic. Now let's reverse it with a basic process of making a sacred space.
Begin by drawing a circle. The circle represents the unity of things. Alpha and omega/beginning and end. The sun in the sky, the cycles of nature, the progress of time. As he is in all things, the presence of God is all around us.
Stand within the circle and recognize his presence. Call on God's angels and invite them to your space. Perhaps ask Michael to draw his fiery sword and make your space safe from evil. Or ask Gabriel, the Lord's messenger, to join you and help you contemplate your purpose in His plan. Or invite any of the others of the hierarchy of angels- from guardians, archangel,cherubim, seraphim, to the angelic virtues or dominions.. Call on the help of whatever host is most relevant to your goals intended for your 'casting'. Feel their presence and influence as you perform your working or prayer.
Finally, one might release the circle by thanking the angels who came for their blessed appearance and help in manifesting God's will- regardless of what that will might be. (For as an old friend of mine once put it, 'God answers all prayers. But sometimes that answer is "no."') . And then bidding the angels farewell and give thanks to the glory of God.
And thus a magical process might be used to a Christian method and concept. What defines a process as Christian is that it is centered solely on God, his heavenly host, and recognizing him as the one true guiding force at the core of literally everything, with no being or will placed above (or even alongside) him.
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Re: Christian spells
By: Awatson
Post # 5
Nov 23, 2023
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Thank you, I might delve into Wicca and abrahamic magic au
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Just want to remind you that this site has a very strict "no non english" around here. You can't even write in latin in the forms in the context of a latin incantation, so even though I know what your saying I don't want to see you getting in trouble.
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Re: Christian spells
By: Lark Moderator / Adept
Post # 7
Nov 25, 2023
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If you are interested in Christian magic and only want to worship the Christian God, then Wicca is not for you. Wicca is specifically a Pagan religion which honors a Lady of the Moon and the Horned Lord (not Satan). There are some people who try to blend the two, but once you do that you are practicing something which is neither Christianity nor Wicca. This article might clear up the differences for you.
Christian Wicca - https://www.spellsofmagic.com/coven_ritual.html?coven=735&am...
And here is an article that I wrote about what Wiccans believe. Note that Wicca contains nothing about sin, a Savior, or any of the core beliefs of Christianity.
What Wicca Is and Isn't - https://www.spellsofmagic.com/read_post.html?post=637268
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Re: Christian spells
By: Awatson
Post # 8
Nov 26, 2023
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Thank you for your insight
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Re: Christian spells
By: Horatius
Post # 9
Dec 16, 2023
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Can't you write it if you include translation? Crowley made a pretty strong case for the "barbarous words of evocation" as having power of their own. I mean, would it be OK if, describing the Liber Samekh rite, I wrote, "Hekas, hekas, estoi bebeloi!" (Depart, depart, let the unclean depart!)? See? Foreign tongue with translation.
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Re: Christian spells
By: Horatius
Post # 10
Dec 16, 2023
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Fine post and I tend to agree. (For what that's worth.)
On the other hand,I know theistic Satanists in my tradition who maintain that the "danger" posed by the Goetia's demons is due to the old magi being both traffickers with demons and semi-practicing Christians or Jews. Types that tried to have their cake and eat it too.So, naturally, they could only approach the demons using coercive methods.One only "binds" enemies, after all. One notes, for example, that figures like John Dee and Abramelin were, by their lights, "faithful to" their Judeo-Christian creeds.Indeed, Dee recorded the Enochian system without using it or advocating its use.
The upshot here is that there have been (and presumably still are) magi who are practicing Christians and dabblers in magic.(In another forum, one of the more insightful regular posters is a Kabbalist by practice/ Christian by faith. I like the guy, while thinking he is nuking futz conceptually.) Whether they are on solid ground or thin ice, the issue will tell.I advise OP to read and ponder the First Commandment and see if he can square that with magick. The Bible itself tends toward a negative answer there.
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Re: Christian spells
By: Hechasara
Post # 11
Dec 20, 2023
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Yes there It's Magic within Christianity because the grimoire Armadale was created by Pope honorius after the Christians realized they had exiled,demonized, and try to kill off most practitioners they made a system of spells and rites and invocations to control banish demons. I made my own version of witchcraft deity magic with Earth Magic I praise the divine three the father the son and the spirit but remember this when you're creating your magic it's called witchcraft for a reason that's why there's no master to it because it's evolves constantly and those who practice it's bringing new life to the practice of magic
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Re: Christian spells
By: Dr.D3soi1
Post # 12
Jan 02, 2024
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I love your explanation on the similarities between these branches of faith, and the way you broke down 'the lords prayer's, into digestible bites in this regard. This is an important factor in realizing the bigger picture. Most spiritual people understand there is a higher power. The issue is, we have been tricked into thinking our beliefs are opposite each other, or otherwise incompatible. But as we continue to live, and pay attention to the things happening in our world, especially from a spiritual perspective, we find common ground. A studious researcher of mystic arts, would usually begin their search by looking into some of the oldest styles or forms/types of magic. Doing this would undoubtedly bring them to the "Keys Of Solomon".
These keys, when expanded upon from first to last, are literal sigils, made to exercise our capacity to influence daemon, angels, and nature. For some reason, people pass over the fact that these sigils utilize power drawn from the name of God, Christ, and the angels themselves..
Moving on, how did people conclude that the God of literal miracles(magic), is not synonymous with a magical life? The entire Bible exhibits his mastery over every aspect of physical, and spiritual energies. Abilities given simply for believing they are done through Him. When we look at the world, and see mystics who seem to have power. IF their will is actually effective, why do we assume God had nothing to do with it? I believe faith itself can only be in God, because his spirit powers everything we do. So called Pagans are called such because they seem to pray to or worship things not of God, but in the book of Job, it quickly becomes obvious who's will is in ultimate control. But the bible also explains the source of all power on earth, physical, or spiritual, is a direct product of his Holy Spirit. Even if you ignore the biblical sense, and focus on this power from a scientific perspective, you would be forced to conclude, that even bad things can, and do produce positive results. The Christian walk is an attempt to bring light to this fact, as well as a few others, which prove helpful for all spiritual pursuits, even, and especially magical ones.
I'm reminded of that movie 'Beautiful Creatures". It plays that there must be a balance between positive and negative energies, for true mastery to begin to take place. 'True force/power lies between rage, and serenity'. - Prof. X (lol) but it's true. There are old depictions of Jesus with both red, and white light coming from his heart. Could this mean what I think? What other explanation is there? Isn't it possible that those who wield actual power, palpable influence in waking life, do indeed believe in God? Do we have to vocalize what aspect of God we decide to focus on? No, actual faith is a personal thing. but those who refuse to accept such truths, will see their power wane as the end of the beginning comes to a close. We all feel the shift taking place, do we move forward in fear, or proceed with courage to pursue what has been put on our hearts?
Furthermore, all throughout the Bible, the Jews (those who had the written word to append to), would get blessed before the Gentiles (those without the written word, but followed what God put on their hearts). But they also got punished first, and some say harder than the Gentiles when they do wrong. This is modern day truth, yet biblical. I have reason to believe also, that the developmental divide is identical in affect. Those who stick to technicality develop technology, those who trust The Spirit develop a sensitivity to "the force" there of. One is worldly, one is Godly. They oppose each other only because that's their natural contrast. Our physical has to oppose the spiritual,to be able to contain it like it does. This opposition enables us to interact with the life.
We learn through meditation how to pray with our physical selves. The physical body is an antenna for spiritual influence. It translates our will into a physical expression. This is Life. And those of us who align our will with that of the creator, our will becomes more perfect, and our hearts desires become 'when', not 'if'. Following what someone says God said, is not faith in God, it's faith in man. When you follow what God puts on our heart, that is Godly faith, and that is where power comes from. We are designed to prosper according to the prosperity of our souls, which depends entirely on how much faith in God/Source/Universe we actually have.
If you need more faith, listen closely to the spirit, as he plays the role of the voice of your conscience. Still, small, and deep within yourself. He loves us, and will give us what we seem to ask for. Meditation can take you there, but you have to grab hold of your physical. Bring it under subjection before him, that his will may be known to you too! Blessed, we!
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Re: Christian spells
By: Tadashi / Novice
Post # 13
Jan 02, 2024
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Merry Meet,
If memory serves, there are spells in the bible. Or, at least, folk magik. There are a few authors on the subject, though I would ask God/Jesus for guidance. I do follow one Christian Witch on social media, her names Sarah Raztresen and she does, among other things, conversations with various deities and spirits. She recently published a book on the subject, too. I will link her site below, hopefully it can help you with some information.
https://www.sararaztresen.com/
Blessed Be.
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