Christianity & Old Magic

Thanks, Aquafish! I'm glad you got something out of it.

I have a distaste for fundamentalist Protestant Christianity as well - I grew up in Texas, and some of the Christians there were intolerant, hateful, hypocritical people. That doesn't mean they're all like that, though. I also have a fondness for Catholicism, though I'm a pagan myself; well, pagan-atheist.

I follow the religion of Northern/Western Europe before it became Christianized, as best I can determine it was practiced. I am attempting to become proficient in the magic of this location and time period, as well: galdr, seidr, and the rest. Thus my avatar: a seal from the Heptameron with an eisenkreuz in the middle. I hope to eventually take what I have learned from Hermeticism and practice my own brand of "Wodinetics"!

If you need help with that let me know, I am an Asatruar and very familiar with the magick related to that culture.

Although it would seem that wiccans dominate this forum, many of us are not wiccan. In fact, this website is supposed to be for all paths.

I, for one, am not a wiccan. I'm a natural pagan, therefore a "grey" or balanced witch.

I think it's great that you put this out here. I actually tell Christians interested in magick that there are many forms of magick out there that have a great deal of Christian influence. The Renaissance times are full of it.

Do I think it's being a "true" Christian to perform magick? Not really. But I feel that religion and faith is a personal choice, and if someone wants to take from a religion some things and not all, that is their prerogative.

Thank you indeed Vilhjalmr for this topic. I am indeed a Christian, and yet I study magick for as God has given the right of it to all people. Some Christians can be a but stubborn on the magick topic in relation to Christianity but if they at least read some of the bible and put two and two together, i'm sure they can come to understand things.

@Aquafish, of course it's an umbrella term, however I've seen lots of people claiming to be pagan. Also, just because you don't like a religion personally isn't making you a hypocrite, it's the ones who act just as intolerant as the Christian extremists.

I'm not a Christian myself, but I can see the links it shares with many others, such as Buddhism.

Jesus also practice White Magic, why can't his followers practice it. Jesus was missing for some years, history proven that he went to India to learn 'Supernatural' powers and also studied Buddhism. Healing was very common in India and China back then, but it is considered 'god beings' can have this abilities in other places. People would think one who has these abilities is from god or god. Healing can be perform by anyone with pure mind. Anyone has negative minds can also do it, but not that effective.

History has proven that he went to india? Last I checked that was just a theory.

ok not to be rude but i was a christian and they say any act of magic or witch craft is satanic and condems you to hell.

Sorry, maybe I misunderstand, but I heard that there was a history record in India that Jesus was there...History might be fake...or where I heard from must be fake...

I don't know...

"It takes hundreds of words to explain something, but it takes no word to understand it."

Even the Bible itself is lying, if you have never experience something....nothing is real, but through experience is true...

Ronin95, I think the actual word used to condemn magic in the Bible refers specifically to pagan witchcraft. The excuse a practitioner of grimoire or "High" magic would give is that the Bible doesn't say anything about that!

Interestingly, King Saul in the Bible gets a necromancer to call up a spirit of the dead for him... even though the Bible also says not to use necromancy.