Who is Satan?

Many would think they have a good idea who satan is and what he looks like. A big red guy with massive horns and goat feet, but to be honest he is nothing like that. Satan is much than what we think he is. To christians he is the embodiment of evil, while to satanist, he is considered to be a God.

Lets start off with the beginning, Satan's downfall. Before he was casted down Satan was called Lucifer, son of the morning star. He was kicked out of heaven for thinking he could cease God's throne and become a better God then God himself. Any angel who opposed god later and followed Lucifer, met the same fate. We can see how Lucifer got kicked out of heaven with this verse:

12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O Day Star, son of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low!

13 You said in your heart,
‘I will ascend to heaven;
above the stars of God
I will set my throne on high;
I will sit on the mount of assembly
in the far reaches of the north;

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.'

Later we see how Lucifer, name changed into satan with the following verse:

Revelation 12:9

9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

How Lucifer got his name was from the word Ha-Satan. Meaning accuser or adversary. This name was given to an angel who would, by Gods command, to test the faith of his followers. The angel would give certain challenges to people to see if they would choose the right way. This later changed into deeper meaning in the new testament. Which would mean to be the enemy of god and who wouldn't fit this title better, than Lucifer himself.

People seem to see Satan as an ugly demon, but this is not so. He was considered the most beautiful angel that God Created. Like I said in the beginning of this thread, Satan is much more than we think he is.

Some satanist would believe he is trying to lead man away from God, because how corrupt he is. If you look in the bible God killed thousands of people, just look at how he flooded the entire world because he thought it unclean. Satan on the other hand only killed 10 because God allowed it, because he lost a bet.

Satanist including myself view him as the giver of knowledge and the person that set humanity free. He was the snake that made eve and adam eat the forbidden fruit, which allowed us to have a better chance for making our own decisions. Sure, since we ate the fruit child birth is more painful and we are no longer immortal, but that's because God cursed us, not Satan.

To me and other satanist, Satan is the good guy, not the bad guy. If you open your eyes a little bit you would see how corrupt the bible is, which is a topic I will not be discussing here. Open not just your eyes, but your heart to satan and you will find that he is just a good guy.

I hope this thread helped any people wanting to become satanist and gave you some insight on Satanism.

Thank you for reading and HAIL SATAN!

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Though there are many stories in tells about lucifer's fall, some are good and other bad, no one is for sure what created his fall

well,lucifer is not what we think he looks like...plus humans really are teaching satan how to be bad...he might be a simbol,but what i feel is that you should be human no matter what your religion is...if anyone gets what i mean.

Does consciousness have form? Satan is a state of mind, of reality, not an entity.

Lore of the light bringer is something I find very interesting -- especially religions from the same region of the world, and all of the interaction and influence they sometimes seem to share.

Some see the bringer of light as good, the one who gave us the ability to learn, to have souls, be enlightened, become more.

The Yizidis and their peacock god; Gnostics with Abraxas versus the Demiurge; the Abrahamic faiths and their depictions of the same but in a very negative light to exclude worship to one god; Zoroastrians and their reverence for the holy flame ...

Then the concept of the Devil, and the blending with other entities in concept; the evolution of belief.

The blending of pagan gods and the ever-changing lore of the Devil as Christianity moved west, until we are left with current concepts, imagery, and a very thoroughly blended mass of cultures and very different characters from lore into one mass of evil.

Watch the language, please.

Depending on interpretation (as obviously there is a great deal of different interpretations regarding such things), the word Satan itself is (as was originally suggested) was intended to mean accuser or adversary. It was more of a title, really. This is suggested by the manner in which the context of the word's usage frequently varied. It does not pin down and repeatedly refer to a specific entity but more frequently speaks of a person, situation, or spiritual conflict in which there is an adversary to God's will. Often this is almost a test for those within the Old Testament as well as the new. It is a challenge of faith and belief that either results in the fall of an individual or the confirmation of belief and in the rightness of one's path. From the Judeo Christian perspective, anyway, from which the concept of Satan originates at all.

I once had a conversation with an ex girlfriend who came from a family of Hasidic Jew (yeah, I know. She was the black sheep). The orthodox view of such figures in this faith is not of some arch rival of God, but simply another extension of God's will. A test of faith. For that matter, there is no hell in this belief either. There is simply a place where one's soul goes, awaiting the time when it is ready to enter God's grace. And in such a situation, the being who looks over such (briefly) damned souls is not some shepherd of the sinners, but a guardian of sorts. One who looks over and assures that as time and penance makes them ready they are undisturbed.

This is an over simplification and I may well have misinterpreted some of what she said. But the core of it is that the concept of hell, and a single being who is Satan, or any other such concept, is derived from the Roman influence upon Christianity which split later into the Greek Orthodoxy and the many others thereafter. Satan, hell, and all of the rest, are essentially concepts crafted in the early foundation of the Church and then further skewed through the satirical/political works of Dante and such who inadvertently added fuel to the fire of what shifted from being a concept of faith to a political religion organized around the control of the populace. There was no single being, no lord of Hell, or any other such personification fixated upon an individual until these other faiths and religions came into being, and subsequent faith-based concepts of Satan/Lucifer as a God, divinity, or other such spirit thus sense from the corrupted Judeo-Christian dogma, that has also frequently suffered hundreds (if not thousands) of years of mistranslation and purposeful mis-interpretation.

Other attempts to explore the word Satan as a deity that predates Christianity are frequently flawed, attempting to draw comparisons from languages unrelated to Hebrew (from which the word Satan originates), or other cultures that very likely had little to no contact with the Hebrew nations from which these faiths arise. The exception, perhaps, might be the influence of a multitude of polytheistic faiths that presented an adversarial figure, or the adversarial figure within Zoroastrianism. In these cases, the influencing deities would not actually be “Satan,” however but figures prominent within their own faiths who were conveniently borrowed/conscripted to suit the whims of early Judeo-Christian faiths and the various Satanic sects.

That is not to say that one's individual beliefs are false, or that one's personal experiences in faith and spirituality are delusion. To each person such things are very real, and can help guide them through life. Their origins, however, are theoretically of one of a few sources:

- A consciousness derived from a belief made manifest after the myth was fashioned in medieval/late Roman Europe. Or, in other words, a godhead, thought form, or other such thing on a vast scale.

-An interaction with another spirit or some such entity that may theoretically exist that is either misrepresenting itself, or misinterpreted to be, Satan.

-A wholly internal manifestation of the conscious mind suited to meet the needs of the individual during meditative, prayer, and trance state.

That’s just my two cents. They’re not the end-all, be-all. Or, to stick with the topic at hand, the alpha and the omega. (I know. Horrible. I make bad jokes). Just some educated concepts involving the topic that might be worth considering.

From a scholarly perspective you can divide the beliefs about Satan into those originating/borrowing from other faiths, Judeo-Christian concepts of Satan (modern, medieval, and ancient), and Satanic beliefs.

From there you can rather easily sort out what beliefs are derived from falsehoods and the like (and there are many), what is derived from tradition, and what the origins are. It becomes pretty easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Funny how you guys turned a simple question; 'who is Satan ?' nto a PHD class.

The problem with : " who is Satan??" Is the simple fact that we have the biblical version of who he is, the cartoon version ( red, horns and stuff), and then the Angelic version ( which yes has kinda a different view from biblical). Instead of assuming and reascearching who we "think/ believe" Satan is, why do you want to know who he is. In curiosity we find that the reasoning behind wanting to know something will lead us to the answer. So to assume and research who he is, why not better understand why you want to know who he is and develop from there.