Q. about Spirit World

I have heard, from what is a reliable source, that there is a way to _physically_ go to the spirit/astral world. By physically I mean as in take your 3Dimensional body there. The source also said that it could be dangerous. Are either of these facts true? If it is possible, then how would one go about doing it? Thanks for any insight/info into this. If you need any clarification of the question, just ask.

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To be perfectly honest, I doubt it. I've read several articles and books about astral projection and none of which have ever discussed physical astral projection. I've also practiced astral projection personally and never once in that time have I ever physically crossed over to the astral. From what I know you can only spiritually astral project, or send off part of your consciousness into the astral.

Blessed Be and With Respect,
Suliana

i dont think thats possible, your phsyical body belongs on the physical realm, not the astral.

The different bodies are sort of layers in our souls.
The Astral body is the only one known to be able to project onto this plane without difficulty.
The error with the physical body projecting onto the astral, is the astral is not Physical. The varying levels between the spiritual and physical effects the energy, the energy on this plane is much more dense.

I tend to agree with what all of you are saying. Now, is there a way to permanently be able to see spirits (not "see" but literally see)and entites of other realms and dimensions. I agree about the different masses of energy, now, my next question is: is there a way to temporarily transfer your physical body into a ligher density form of energy (I would appreciate no sarcastic replies, such as "yeah, just light yourself on fire, and you'll change energy form!")?

Many suggest that opening your third eye chakra will allow you to see spirits on a permanent basis. Beyond this, practice an repeated contact will expand your consciousness and awareness in a manner that makes "seeing" as common as any other sense.

What you must remember is that this is not the same as normal, physical sight. Normal physical sight is based upon rays of light. Spirits and magical energies do not cause rays of light to react in this manner in most circumstances, so you must rely on your others senses to help you form the image for them. This is the reason that much of what you "see" spiritually hinges upon the way in which you perceive it. Colors, symbolism, and other such factors come into play here as you interpret them.

As far as making your corporeal body ethereal, this runs into the same difficulty. Your physical body is just that, physical. Some suggest that the particles can be excellent or otherwise transported (teleportation, etc) but honestly, this does not seem an aspect of spiritual exploration so much as it seems a facet of science. It is similar to turning sound into electronic signals within a telephone wire and then turning it back into sound again at the other receiver. Some also argue that this translates into being able to attune your physical body to a high enough vibration that it can enter the spiritual realms... but, frankly, if your body vibrates too much your organs rupture. So good luck with that.

Would there be a way to cause your entire body, including organs to vibrate at a higher frequency? Also, as far as the perception thing: my only concern there is that light as well as heat, also including spiritual entities, is energy. Some of it is visable (ex.:white light) and some is not _normally_ visable (ex.:ultra-violet +al., or infra-red -al.), however, there are ways of making this higher frequency light visable, is there a way to make these higher frequencies of energy visable to the eye. Finally, as far as the third eye opening: I have heard many, many ways of "opening your third eye," I am not sure how many of those ways are accurate, and how many are falsehoods; if anyone can give me a way to open my third eye, and explain how/why this works, and where you found this info., I would greatly appreciate if you said it. Thanks.

Aside from your questions about the third eye I believe I had answered your questions in my previous post, but I'll explain again.

The eye senses light. Not energy. This is simply the way that it is physically built. If you wish to view them in the same sense that you can look upon anything else, then what you are viewing must manifest light. Otherwise, the mind creates the image for you. Thus the concept of the "mind's eye," also known as the third eye, or the chakra you're so eager to open. You are burdening your ability to see with unnecessary worries and complication.

In theory it is possible to obtain a level of vibration that allows one to shift the physical form elsewhere, or otherwise alter it energetically. Again, I would point out that anything that vibrates intensely in the physical world tends to fall apart, combust, or otherwise react negatively. Why? Friction. If you vibrate fast enough to dematerialize then my bet is that even the friction generated by the air around you would cause combustion. Even if I'm wrong on that account, you can look at the vibration caused by blunt trauma. This relatively minor vibration hitting the body in a shockwave can cause organs to disrupt without necessarily even breaking the skin. The same concept is how a medieval warhammer works. Unless very specific circumstances were achieved so as to cause all of the organs and tissues and bones to vibrate in a very specific, uniform pattern and all friction was reduced, well... Enjoy internal hemorrhaging and feeling like everything is on fire. Assuming you increase your vibration in the first place.



As far as opening the third eye chakra goes, there are people on the site that can probably help you more. I don't work all that much within the hindu systems of magic - I find them to be helpful, but at the same time unnecessary. If you can sense energies tactilely, process them as a visual image, understand their flow, manipulation, and so forth... Burdening the whole process of understanding with very specific colors, locations, and purposes seems like so much extra baggage.

For example, someone may stress a great deal over third eye chakra and struggle to open it, keep it cleansed etc. This is the chakra linked to perception of magical energies, and the more tangible sight of which, and they very much crave to achieve this. However, they are already fully capable of sensing the energies around them. And in sensing these energies, they can already understand their nature. Further, with focus, they can visualize their nature. So then to what further purpose do they struggle with nothing but an alternative concept of the chakra? They have already achieved everything they seek to gain through the opening of the chakra, yet the believe it necessary to do more simply because they perceive the chakra to be the only path to success. The very struggle itself is contrary to the calm focus that is most successful in exploring all energetic methods.

I would also add that when molecules achieve a frequency of movement their physical form changes too. Water, for example, becomes ice when it slows and steam when it intensified. So theoretically you'd also have to keep all things intact and in their proper location while shifting through these other states of matter. This would be rather intensely unpleasant, as the various parts of the human body all have different melting / burning points. Your eyes, for example, would go well before your bones.

So you mean that we can see the spirits permanently after getting used to opening the third eye? You said that we see shapes and colours to see the entities. So would we ever see them as a transparent person or entity instead of seeing shapes? I am hope I'm making sense in the way that I am asking the questions. I am new to astral projection of any sort.

Which brings me to another question. Do you have to close your eyes to "see" things threw the third eye? Or can you see them when your eyes are open?