Actually, not every demonination of Christianity even believes in the existance of demons.
Lucifer was a fallen angel, yes...but I have never once heard of demons being considered fallen angels, let alone justifying them as good or neutral because of it. This information comes from spending time in a few different churches, each a different demonination of the Christian faith.
I personally don't think all demons can be classified as "evil" but do strongly caution those who wish to summon them out of boredom or with the thought of controling them. You forcablly pull anything from it's home because you think it's neat, odds are you are going to cry and wish you didn't.
It's kind of flip flopped.
My views aren't based off of any set religion.
Especially not Christianity, not that there is anything wrong with that religion .But here it is;
Fallen angels aren't considered angels anymore,
Since they fell they are just called Demons as well
Because they are no longer in heaven and do not follow Gods wishes.
But not all demons are fallen angels. Most of them are just demons.
It's like two different classes if you want to view it that way.
''I personally don't think all demons can be classified as "evil" but do strongly caution those who wish to summon them out of boredom or with the thought of controling them. You forcablly pull anything from it's home because you think it's neat, odds are you are going to cry and wish you didn't. ''
I certenly agree with the ones mentioned above, by healer, becasue from what i saw in my few days spent here, a lot of members think it is ''cool'' to summon a demon, and are dooing it only to have a little fun, never thinking about what could realy happen. I am not saying they are evil, becasue they are not, and from my oppinion, anyone who sais they are, are just close- minded persons. You can't ''force'' a demon to follow you, you talk to him like your equal, not as your supperior, or inferior. You can't ''trap'' one either, as I have heard some people pretend to have done.
'' I want to catch a demon and put him do whatever I say'' - No, just no.
"I am not saying they are evil, becasue they are not, and from my oppinion, anyone who sais they are, are just close- minded persons."
Ok you just dont get it demons are evil they wana do harm to people destroy them get them ill sick make them suffer
If they are so good why you just dont call one and see what will happen
tough i know that will not work because nothing can get out of hell specialy by the hand of a man/woman
If you say you called a demon or Luzifer what is so redicilous and a lie to get attention i will not belive you and i dont think any one else will
and as many other people say ANGELS ARE NOT! I REPEAT ANGELSSSS ARE NOTTT DEMONSSS
There is only one fallen angel who is considered a demon is Luzifer.
And why does a guy with the name Lucifuge and the picture of the devil on his profile talking about Angels ?
You dont know any thing about Christian belives and dont thry to explain a Christian that Demons are good they are not good and stop .
Luzifer burns in hell in pain for all eternity xD :D yay!!
God rules :D ;)
WAngel;
I do not mean to be rude but I take offense to your comment.
"Ok you just dont get it demons are evil they wana do harm to people destroy them get them ill sick make them suffer "
Do you honestly believe that? It's ridiculous. You have not met a nice demon than. Believe me, there are nice ones.Take a look around. There may be one or two on this site. You never know who you are talking to - so before you are judgmental to a certain group you should make sure. The demons that can be summoned are demons from HELL. But there is a vast number of them walking around in flesh form. Meaning the body of a human but the soul of a demon. As I always say in my other posts, " You are likely to run into one and never even know it." . And the ones that are in flesh form tend to act like civilized beings. They don't run around harassing humans. Nor are they out to do harm to the world. I would appreciate you showing some respect to other beings besides humans. Because if I wanted to be biased I could say that humans are nothing more than blood bags that walk around destroying everything they touch and being greedy and selfish. While this applies to a small number of the population - most are not this way. And it's the same with demons. Secondly, Lucifer was not the only 'fallen angel'. A lot of angels fell for supporting him and supporting Michael who questioned Gods about his purpose for man. There's a lot more fallen than bibles or scripts tell you. It's not important to the Bible's main point and thus they don't print everything that was mentioned.
Faust;
Yes I agree that demons and angels are two completely different entities. It just seems that the angels that have fallen aren't being called angels anymore. At least not here. So I'm just going along with that for now. Since they can't call themselves angels anymore. Because angels follow under God. I don't know if I'm putting this the correct way. Here's a quote to go by;
"""Many other angels were created forming three orders in heaven. The Seraphim the Archangels, followed by Thrones the Angels, followed by the final and lowest Cherubim often called Cherubs. Michael being the eldest and named “He who is like god” carried out gods plans. The others followed suit. However God never spoke directly to them, the Archangel Michael and Lucifer spoke for him because he never punished them they believed what they had done was right. However as time wore on and years pasted much the same. Lucifer left heaven and the side of God, long after Michael presented the question that would be his damnation from his creator and father God he asked what the purpose of man was and why he was sent to control them so readily, the others agreed in unison with Michael's question and in doing so he was cast down to the earth into the barren wasteland of hell along with the angels that supported him. And there they remained with demons until the gates of hell were opened and demons allowed to walk on Earth."""
(This is not in the bible by the way. It's a written history.)
http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/demons-and-fallen-angels
Christian believes of demons/fallen
And here is something .. The Enoch was not really put in the bible, I still believe it counts. It all depends on what you believe from the Bible. The book of Enoch is non-canonical in most Christian Churches but the Ethiopian Orthodox Church regards it to be canonical. I personally think it should be a part they teach. But as it detours from the bibles main point many do not feel the need to include it
The Watchers or Grigori.
I recommend looking here;
http://www.amadan.org/Innomine/Grigori.html
http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Demons
http://www.sherryshriner.com/fallen_angels.htm
There's some misinformation
(Like for instance the size of them .
While they were infact considered giants for some time,
They are not still the same today.)
But overall the points of the articles are clear
It's a connection between angels and demons I think.
