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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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Lilith is the first succubus and was the first wife of Adam. Eve was created later when Lilth had left Adam and had given into the prince of envy Leviathan. Lucifer, brother to Levianthan is the demon prince of Pride.

Lilith and Lucifer have no association with one another.
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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Lillith wasn't ever married to Lucifer (The Light Bearer), nor to any other being. It has been said that she was Adam's first partner but because she would not be an obedient and god fearing wife, Adam asked The Lord and The Lord cast Lillith from The Garden of Eden and made Eve from one of Adam's ribs.

When Lillith was cast from The Garden of Eden, she became known as The Mother of Demons even though when she was cast from The Garden of Eden, God had cursed her to never bear any child. I'm not sure if child means human child, or anything.

Either way, Lillith was never married and she has been spoken of little in Christian Mythology or really any texts. I find it curious myself because I find her rather fascinating and I haven't been able to find much about her, and what I have has been scarce.

On a side note, if anyone has any books, or knows of, that discusses Lillith in a little more detail, I'd appreciate knowing.

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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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Lilith war never casted out of the garden but she herself left it and in bible isaiah 34:14 It clearly states that god wanted her to return and he even provided her a place to rest near red sea.

Lilith was never married to lucifer he has nothing to do with her. I read about lilith in detail in black cross coven'library'.They have provided quite a handful of pdf's sites named as "book 2 Theurgia goetia"There they are explaining from quite the begining which even includes what a vampire is exactly ,invocations to summon the strongest demons as well,also about the tree of knowledge & tree of life and of course about lilith and talks each and everything about left hand path and to become a true magician the truth of a magician.Here it also tells about goetia spirits,The 22 tunnels etc.

The way i say it might not sound effective and also seem like fluff to some but it is the truth for my own experience .
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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Hi,
I have read a lot of different material regarding Lilith, there is some conflicting information from Judaism, Babylonian and Sumerian texts.
I cannot be sure but there is a site called lilith.com.
this site covers some varying myths about lilith even to the point that Lilith is the feminine God like the feminine aspect of the Creator, then there are many myths about her being extremely domineering and was always fighting with Adam.
the interesting thing about history is trying to find accurate I formation which is not a biased translation.
All the best with your research.
cheers
malano
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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It's said that Lilith was the original wife of Adam, but she refused to obey Adam and god. She was outcast, the stories say she can't have children anymore, some gruesome stories say she can have children, but they are still-born. Out of her hatred and anger towards Adam and god, she created the first demons. Samael being the first, and also said to be the serpent that caused humanity to fall from grace. On the front of her marriage, Lilith married Samael, who was slain by the angel Michael. I hope this helps.
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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You can't really confine her to the title "Lilith." She is known by many names, Kali, Satrina, Ita, Batna, Talto, Amizo, Abito, Izorpos, Kokos, Odam, Podo, Eilo, Patrota, Abeko, Kea, Partasha.
You'll find that these names spread widely throughout religious stories of many religions. My mistress wouldn't like to be belittled.
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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*facepalm*
Please read joyofsatan.org
For education
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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JoyofSatan is a horrible unreliable source that shouldn't be taken under consideration for "education".

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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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Hahahaha! you're funny.
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Re: Lilith and Lucifer
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She's quite correct. There's very little from JoyOfSatan that is based in historical fact. Most of it contains some vague statement that resembles history that is used to support the site's stance on a particular topic. One of the common examples is the site discussing that the word Satan actually means truth, or something to that effect. It bases this definition on the idea that the word resembles a sanskrit word which means just that, truth. Unfortunately, Satan is Hebrew, and roughly translates into adversary. Hebrew and Sanskrit are not remotely alike. They do not share any common roots. They did not influence each other in development. The word Satan, thus, cannot mean truth as derived from Sanskrit, no matter how similar they may sound.

This is just one example among many. Before laughing and mocking people on a message board, I suggest you get your facts straight.

Lilith is associated with those various female deities that were listed, but most of those names that you mention are from cultures that have little to nothing to do with one another.

Lilith is not mentioned at all in the Torah, Bible, etc. There is little to no connection between her and Adam, Lucifer, any of the figures presented as Satan, etc. She originates from Jewish folklore, in which she is used to explain a discrepancy in the book of Genesis where there are two contradictory accounts of the creation of Adam and Eve.

That's it. The rest has just been people linking stuff together and trying to make sense of it, just like those old, original Rabbis who created a story to make sense of that which did not make sense.

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