how do you use magick?

Very well put, Raven. That's exactly my point and more.

Thank you so much for that. Just made my night.
Great post.

the 'with the mind' sounds a little insulting. i know what you mean, but i also comes across to me as 'all in your heard'.

in terms of spell casting, the best ones i've cast were the companion spell for my mom because she wanted someone to go to concerts and dinner with, and this luck/protection spell on my ex. in one week he found 50$ and got 2 dates with different girls. [before we started dating]

personally though i rarely cast, but i do charge a lot of my food/chores with energy and typically will say a chant over them, those work well enough i suppose.

yea thanks to whoever deleted my post and white raven basically wut i said is magick is universal and our brain is what syncs us in to this dimension you take it for granted what it can do like create a atom bomb or predict events like nostradamous and so therefore our mind is a tool that if we can control we can use magick in ways we could not otherwise. Like with meditation which is a neccesity to learning anything thats why people dont know they are meditating because our minds control us. If we can control our minds and use all of it then there is no boundaries to reality.

Because we are also part of nature, we are on top of the food chain in this planet for a reason. Magick is universal and magnetic we exist as one and in a sense also infinity at the same time. This is just one dimension. Our brains see wut our eyes cannot. People use magick to control this world wether you like it or not, we are all under a spell right now.

"vanity sigh* another person trying to convince me what the boundaries of reality are sorry i dont belieave there are boundaries i also dont know what is possible and what is impossible what i can or cant do im still learning. Im sorry im not all knowing like you vanity lol. We both live in illusions and the difference between me and you is I KNOW im in one."


Anomaly...this is a fallacy. One cannot be in an illusion and know of it because the nature of an illusion is to be unknown. Ignorance is the mechanic through which illusions work, so while you may believe yourself to be in a certain illusion, you are in fact under the influence of a completely different one.
As to what magic really is, I have yet to find out. I feel as though I touched the tip of the iceberg, but I'm far from the surface of the water. And, as for how I use it; I use to gain understanding of the world around me...I'm not trying to control anything through magic, I don't want control because I know how many errors I make with what little I have now. I just want to learn more about myself, the world, and magic.

i disagree to an extent of how strong the illusion is like a magic trick one can know it is a trick but not how it is done. Same with me i know its a illusion but i dont know how to escape it.

Yours was deleted for swearing. It's a forum rule. I saw it but ignored it since it was not directed toward anyone. MrGreen's post was deleted because he quoted your swearing. I think whoever did it could have just removed the swear word and not the post, but oh well, not my site.

i know the rules and did not swear at all? :(

I don't consider it much of a swear word, but its a four letter word that starts with D and beavers make them lol!

" so therefore our mind is a tool that if we can control we can use magick in ways we could not otherwise"

Yes! Finally. =) Our MINDS are tools that we "use", magick is the medium we work with.

"Magick is universal and magnetic we exist as one and in a sense also infinity at the same time. This is just one dimension."

Well said statement.

I'm going to cease our little debate because I think we finally meet eye to eye, although some things you say are not my opinion, it is a personal opinion and one you have full right to hold.

As to your original question, I have broken fevers, speedened recovery of both illness and injury, healed headaches, tummy aches, and other pains (with no physical medicine). I have yet to protect a warrior (military man) or traveler that hasn't returned home alive and well (with and without them knowing about my actions). My favorite strengths are protection and healing although I'm not limited to them. But I never ever take full credit for what I do. My thanks always goes out to the spirits. Spirits to me are not the way you probably see them. A spirit is anything with life force/vital energy, and the elements and other forces of nature have their own "spirit" too, in my belief.

I guess part of understanding what magick is, is getting to this point, in one's life, if they are in the craft, where they are not indoctrinated. This means a person will soon learn to truly make their own judgements, while at the same time, learning that they can or want to learn. Understanding what magick is, I think is what some are trying to describe as self-actualization. Part of that comes learning acceptance, and personalized matters start to come to the surface, for that matter, so a person can better themselves.

Truly, I think when one starts to realize all these things, that they learn in the craft, they start to naturally realize life itself, because of that different world they came to know. It is sort of like being able to to do comparative analysis you weren't able to do before.

Well, what is magick? To me there are basically three things to doing magick. Well, we don't do it, I guess we sort of look into it. We give it emotion of what we have, and we cause a ripple effect. Besides all the gadgets and gismos, excuse those terms, one simply gets into a relaxed grounded state, is able to visualize what it is that they want or need, and is able to make that change on the metaphysical plane by their emotion/desire, or that life they give into it. Relaxation, visualization and desire are the three basic things, one can do with their mind in order to accomplish something magickal, beyond the ordinary or 'expected.'

If one were so inclined, so relaxed, and brought their focus down to a fine point where they were actually that very thing, then maybe they could turn the lights out without touching the switch.

''Your darn right it did. I mean, really?'' Nicky

I guess one can do those three main things, but what it is that they want to do with their mind, within the web of life, totally depends upon that person. Whether it be solely by action or partly by meta-action, everything that we do is magickal, and by that at least somewhat magickal. I mean, its like if we really are so inclined to want to do something, chances are that we might be prone to do it, at some point, if not physically, then perhaps metaphysically. If one wants to shell-shock the magickal plane, they could probably do it. Or if they believe in the butterflies, I suppose they can make it rain beautiful butterflies, in one's life (metaphorically speaking, of course).

I think what someone was trying to explain was that one of the hardest things to do is step outside of one's own beliefs, in order to at least to try truly seeing something else, for what it may be. Gotta believe in the butterflies, because that's what it might feel like the day we think outside the box.

I don't know nothing about nothing. But I remember waking up thinking about those three things. . . being grounded, being able to imagine, like Tiger Woods ya'll, and giving that ''ya'll'' the desire it needs.

My sincerest of apologies, on behalf of what profanity I may have used, everyone, in my previous post. And I see to it that it wont happen again. Yes, agaaaain. Pishposh poppycock jolly old chaps, ladies and gents. I'm a jolly old chap because when all else fails I just like to think everything is magickal. That helps me out when I don't know where to start. 'Everything is magickal.'

Apparently, everything can be an anomaly.