Demon attack in dream

A lot of people like to reject the belief or fact that demons exist, because it naturally would shatter his or her sense of reality, when in fact, that such 'rationalities' are hard to come by as rational. It is the understanding of the metaphysical, the orders and somewhat how well a person is willing to put aside all biases, opinions that will bring him or her closer to understanding. For whatever reason a person would not want to believe that demons exist, is their own folly, but I say that with respects to one's own path. The thing about going to a shrink and being put on meds, I think will worsen a dilemma such as a demon terrorizing a person's dreams. It may work in the fact, that the person can gain the will to believe that what is happening is just something not to worry about, and that the person has power over such a 'fake' entity. Or the person can deny society's basic primal indoctrinated assumptions and go their own way, which ever that may be, but in the end, I hope through experience that the person truly finds his or her own way to 'truth.' HEY, I don't think grade school has taught me anything about metaphysical concepts. Another things. The thing about any sort of drug or alcohol, is that the use of them naturally breaks down a person's aura and leaves a person's mind more susceptible and open to spiritual things; such as, demons. I would have to say, that I would not want to use antidepressants, as an example, if I were so prescribed them, because I believe it is something that I would have to rely upon, when all my answers and hope in life, are right in front of me. Not to mention, that the tools that I have to manipulate my surroundings with and the energies that I can bestow upon myself, with those 'tools,' would and should suffice, in regards as a spell caster. Knowing and understanding that demons are around, brings that much more into the equation, as another variable and aspect to use or incorporate into my magickal regimen, as a spell caster. And that is not to say that I solely use demons in spells, or that demons are the reason to everything spiritually malignant or that they are solely malignant, but it is a culmination of many aspects that constantly support each other, as something into my own view of all things esoteric, as much as I can fathom of and about those things, both by experience and study, and in which seemingly seem to work for me, as a metaphysical worker, but it is needless say that there just may be something 'there'; nonetheless, I would rather prefer that no one would know of or about demons, even the simple notion that they do exist, because I would have more of a metaphysical playground and dominance, in some respects.

You see, I think every ceremonial magician and every savvy witch will say, that there are variables and concepts, in the metaphysical world. That very double-edged meaning to the word, occult, as much as it is a double-edge sword, in itself, is a concept and lesson of power through knowledge. Knowing and understanding another part of a world, that not very many seem to know about, not even myself, is another world, the metaphysical, that can always be manipulated in some sort of way and to some extent.

Maybe the demon was trying to say that it belonged to the 6th Legion of Hell! LOL! Just look at the 'initials.' U is Latin for V, and 'I' can be the Roman numeral 1. Put V and 'I' together, one would get the Roman numeral, VI. Which is, 6, if I am not mistaken. Remember some demons only state themselves as only, "Legion," apparently. LOL! Why would this be, hypothetically speaking? Well, because when a person knows the exact name of a demon, that person then can somehow, in some way, not that it is the 'right' way, can summon the demon at will. Then that of what I just mentioned, goes further as to exactly why that would be, and it would have to do with other concepts, which are debatable. Gosh, even amongst other fellow pagans, I just might be considered crazy. . . 'I am legion, for I am part of many!' LOL! You know, that actually makes sense in a way.

I would just go with the idea of getting rid of the board, if it causes too much trouble, but I tried to help with sharing some of my knowledge, and if the message doesn't come clear, it is still there. I think the spirit board is a great tool to come to terms with and use, because of the things one can learn, because the very situations that can come from it, which can sometimes. . . put a person to the test. I hope I helped, as much as I like to share, and it is in my best of wishes that I did.

Anyone know a song about demons, or of a song that speak to them that just may be about demons? Does anyone also know of any goods reads on demonology? A book on demonology.

I actually think that water cleaning does make sense felt this when I logged off last night. I dnt think u should mess with Ouija boards unless you really knew what u was doing. I've been a witch 4 28yrs but I would not mess with them but that's due to me not studding op on the Ouija board. I agree with a lot of contents of the comments that's been said.

I would suggest putting the board under flowing water, since that hurts and breaks most evil seals, and can seriously weaken most evil entities. afterward burn some white sage and sweet grass to purify your home and NEVER use a ouija board again, cuz they always bring trouble.

If you ever think about destroying the board, never break it or burn it in your home, or around it. Some say that leaves a portal open. Like it tares a portal open.

I think it would be smart to burn a spirit board where nobody really goes. Then everything should be fine. Remember, never destroy the board inside your home.

Yes, there are a lot of stories about spirit boards.

I like mine. It is homemade with a stainless steel pentacle as a planchette, and I only speak to my spirit guide through it.

I would just burn the thing, but if you want to pull a bad move on one of your enemies, you can break the board inside of their restroom, and throw the remains in the trashcan. You know, I would imagine that it wouldn't turn out good, but I guess it is one way to test a theory.

Yeah, I would just burn the darn thing, and cleanse my home afterwards. Hallelujah! ;)

No matter how you get rid of it, I would recommend cleansing your home afterwards, in the manner you feel is right.

Do NOT, however, break that board and leave it laying about to attract negativity to an enemy. It may work, but that negativity will also be visited back on you. Karma is real. Also, when you take on a student, on purpose or just by giving out information freely on a chat board, you accept the karmic responsibility for that student and what that student does with the information you provide. Something that Mr. Green obviously hasn't realized yet. Dispose of it properly and safely.

LVX,

Shawn.

I always thought of karma as how much a person dwelled on a matter, really depicting whether they have a conscience or not. It's what we dwell on and depending how much we resonate sort of brings things to fruition. We sort of attract what we sow. But it all depends on whether or not we want to give in to those very circumstances. For example, if I decide to stoop down to a person's level and play their same game, then things are likely to escalate to that person's stature. Some things and some people aren't even worth the breath and though. If we all gave perfect love towards each other, then what can we not be capable of? That saying, you can do anything you put your mind to, means, if one forgets about about everything, forgetting about all biases and opinions, then just maybe he or she will be more prone and more rational about any circumstance, or towards the like.

Reality is what a person makes of it, and if someone implies ill karma on behalf of what they think is poor teaching, just because they don't like the fact that I just may have gave an easy way to curse someone, it is still their own opinion and folly of a poor opinion and possibly belief. The same as how it is one's own free will to do what they will, and that is the whole of the law. There are many ways to curse someone, but we eventually reap what we sow. If that makes sense. There is something about spiritual doorways and spiritual inheritance, as both a gift and a burden. I just wander how dark/black magicians or witches get by in life? I am a Satanist and I do just fine. Between apples and oranges, one should do what they feel is right, but there just may be a price for everything in some sort of way, to say the least

Hey Andro

Yes, Ouija Boards are not to be messed with unless you’re very experienced. And if I were you, I’d find the correct way of disposing them off, never to use one again. But I’d go with White Raven’s explanation that you’re sister’s dream was at the end of the day, just a bad dream. Try interpreting the dream before jumping to conclusions. Although not always, your dream is usually your sub-conscious mind’s way of tell you something you’re probably not aware of. You don’t need to see a shrink over one bad dream. Everyone has dreams of being chased by creatures that we perceive as evil. However, breaking your dream down into symbols, interpreting them and drawing parallels to what’s going on when you’re awake usually helps you understand what your sub-conscious is trying to tell you, thereby eliminating the chances of a recurrence. However, despite doing this if your dream repeats, you may want to take a deeper look, both spiritually and psychologically. Here’s my interpretation of your sister’s dream:

Dreaming of demons usually indicates that you may be experiencing or inflicting fear, emotional distress or physical abuse in your waking life. Considering that you’ll have being playing around with the Ouija Board, could have instilled or resurrected a fear that’s located deep in the psyche of your sister. Demons are also symbolic of ignorance, negative habits, and of your shadow self.

Clowns in dreams usually represent aspects of your personality that makes other people laugh. In a positive context it may reflect your light-hearted side—perhaps even a practical joke that you’ve been wanting to pull. In a negative context or a clown creating fear usually symbolizes issues in your life that embarrass you. A clown also wears make up that is as effective as a mask. A mask is a symbol of the hidden—hidden emotions, feelings, experiences that your subconscious wants you to come to terms with.

My conclusion: It’s time for your sister to come to terms with a fear (that developed long ago) and has recently been resurrected. Once she does that, she shouldn’t dream of demon clowns again.

On a side note: Don’t let fear get you. Fear can sometimes manifest itself into a demon form as well. Cleanse your house and room, find a way to dispose the Ouija Board, keep a candle burning through the night and keep an old key or an iron nail under your pillow when you sleep. And know that things that scare you, like, angels, demons, monsters and even people, can only scare you if you let them feed on your fear.

Hope this helps
Tina

I'm afraid, like so many Mr Green, you misquote Crowley. He said "Do what Thou wilt shall be whole of the law." If you notice, the "Thou" is capitalized. He was not saying you can do whatever you want. He was referring to the Higher self, the Christ Consciousness or, as he termed it, Horus. It is not an excuse for any behovior. Also, you leave out the second part of the Law: "Love is the law, Love under Will." Again, since "Will" is capitalized, it is the higher Will, not your lower emotions. Go back and study more.

Incidentally, I notice you profile says you are Wiccan. Here you say you are a Satanist. I wasn't aware that the Wiccan religion believed in Satan. You say you believe in "what you sow, so shall you reap", but not karma. That is karma. You quote Crowley, who was neither Satanist nor Wiccan, and did teach about karmic responsibility. Perhaps you may be able to clear up the confusion?

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Shawn.

Crowley was a Thelema am I correct? The book of Abramelin was what the golden dawn and crowley used to find there holy guardian angel or higher self I believe it was a 6month ritual. Ive heard Crowley didnt complete because his teacher at the time from the golden dawn ask that he come to london or something not sure,but later on I heard he completed it, then again he fell into drug addiction through Herion and coke so maybe he didnt but who am I to judge. Either way the man knew his occultism

well i let the demons in. it is really fun best dreams ever