Blatant Arrogance

This entire thread seems overly dramatic to me. No one here has any duty to act as a role model for younger generations. In my opinion, we represent ourselves, not 'magic studiers and practitioners'. If someone wants to be arrogant, they have every right to be. I don't want to be clichd, but if this site and it's members truly upset you so much then why would you subject yourself to it?

I would have to agree with Cas there is nothing saying that you have to be a role model or mentor to the young. We do represent ourselves and if thats the way you view those people then thats the way you choose it to be.

Funny you speak of arrogance as if you have none yourself. It is a part of human nature and has its moments with all of us. Take it as you will

The talk of it being unethical to teach others kind of makes me laugh a bit. There is no law of ethics in magick, there is no set of rules that one has to follow in that department. It is up for ever person to decide individually. Its their ethics. How someone chooses to view them or carry them out is not up to you or anyone else but themselves. Im not saying that you can not contemplate why or compare to your ethics but when it comes down to the wire, its not your place or decision. Many arguments I have seen over peoples ethics and what others think. We have to remember that is the path they choose and our only duty is to our own.

Cas and bane are the most agreeable here, you can't argue with free will.
Now arrogance is one thing I'm not directly attacking perhaps I should have been more clear? I don't know.
Arrognce is a nasty side of some people and when they are also ignorant they speak and others will follow.
You might tell me to do my best to just set people straight in these cases and sort of clean up the mess. Sometimes a person can and in most realities one can.
Something I see here is the ability to do so stripped from people. How could justify that after what you just said.
I never brought up ethics to argue it. Lol That would be kind of silly. I am arguing the fact that the person who said sounded like they didn't understand what ethical even means yet people still listened.
I see your points they make sense. But it still doesn't say much about what I meant by this thread.

okay and what is this discussion about I kinda got lost on the last few replys, is about not likeing people and complaing or is it suppose to be constructive and trying to get votes on your side for maybe stating what you want to change and seen if people want in... no okay I still don't know will go back to my corner.

What?

The original argument appeared to be about how some members agree with asinine comments out of the desire to appear intelligent, or to be cruel to certain people.

Well said angietwin, that's exactly what I was saying.

Arrogance, ignorance, and similar such less than admirable qualities can and will exist in every culture, subculture, and walk of life. They are part of human nature.

From what I have seen in regard to this thread, individuals have voiced agreement for the sake of being agreeable or so as to avoid appearing ignorance. What you must remember about this is that there is a great deal of youth on this site, and youth often emulates that which they hear in an attempt to appear more mature or to become that which they admire. Is this arrogant? Sometimes, definitely. Youth is often arrogant.

As for the rest, I find it rather ironic. It is speaking out against the embittered masses while speaking in a very trite and embittered tone.

Take a moment. Calm yourself. Look at what you, yourself are saying and the often strained and scattered nature of your communications within this very post.

That's actually just how I talk.

Once more, I do not argue against arrogance or ignorance, and I'm not particularly speaking of when members recite what they feel to be mature content.

Embittered? Rather.
Against certain occasions, very much so. This is almost 8 years of repression right here, I see this happening daily, nothing is done to help it, so I decided to say something.

If you are not speaking out about arrogance or anything you discussed within your first post and this is merely eight years of repression, I suggest you start writing in a blog or diary or just vent to a friend.

This post is going nowhere. So much for intelligent discourse.