Dragon call

Which dragon call spell do you think I should use.I haven't quite mastered the art of meditation yet but can I do it without meditation?

i dont really know, ask nekoshema he knows

That might take a longer time than expected but thanks.

when meditating try to relax and focus on the blackness around your eye lids

Okay.That was really helpful.Tomorrow,I'm going to try a simple bad luck spell but I'm afraid of the Karma.Any advice?I'm asking cause I only used the weather spells for 4.5 years.I'm upping the ante but am afraid of the consequences.So you got any advice?

@ KHBBSTerra kinda rude to randomly change the topic in the middle of a forum. in my opinion, karma only really effects you if you believe in it. a simple bad luck spell on a person, if it does not backfire onto you or you have built up enough good karma, will not effect you. as well, if the person deserves it, its like you helping karma along. cursing for the sake of cursing will bring bad karma. cursing a person who has done you wrong, really wrong, is not. it's still negative and people frown upon it, but if you're cursing someone who, say, stole something from you, with a simple bad luck spell, karma wouldn't do much if anything. if you're cursing them simply because you don't like them, then it'll probably effect you. slightly confused by the weather spells comment, you mean that's all you really cast? weather spells are pretty strong if cast correctly, and they're a bit of a grey area because you're toying with nature. if you have success with these, it shouldn't me different than any other spell, you need to charge energy and focus. if you want to protect yourself from bad karma, do some good things; pick up trash, donate to charity, help some out, simple things like that would balance out a hex if it's valid, if not, you might want to do a days work, but it won't be too bad imo.

you don't really have to master meditation to call forth dragons, you need to master it if you want to project. as long as you're calm, focused, with a clear mind, try the chant.

Sorry if I'm rude but I was really excited about the idea of black magic.I really want to thank you for the summoning advice though(hope it works tonight:)).

I have been trying to call a dragon but I can't really tell if it has worked or not

well i didnt really try, im having problems founding time to meditate so when i have the opportunity ill try :D

@Nekoshema, i read this post again, and i saw that you said that i could hear the dragons, but hear like what??
hear them talking to you, or just breathing, and doing dragon sounds?