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Re: Spirits and Humans..
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well spirits [as well as humans] can fall in love with each other. happens a lot actually. the problem is they're two different beings, so there will only be heartbreak. i've dealt with many spirits in my life, but i keep them as friends, i've never gotten romantically involved with one.

the heaviness and inability to move when someone wakes is sleep paralysis. it's actually quite horrifying if you know what happens when we sleep, our body pretty much shuts down, our heart rate, breathing and temperature rises and falls, not to mention REM and Non-REM stages of sleep. some people have a sleeping disorder [like sleep walking or talking in your sleep] where they will mentally wake up before physically waking up. there will be a heaviness on your chest and an inability to speak or move your limbs as a result of sleep paralysis. in ancient times it was believed a demon or spirit was sitting on your and sucking away your life. sometimes a persons dream will continue while they are in this dream paralysis, so they might ever see ghostly images from their dreams floating in their room. that's the logical conclusion anyway, when dealing with spirits and the supernatural you need to examine all logical conclusions first.

menstrual blood i've never heard that, but if they are i've been told there's a lot of energy with menstrual blood. [at least in terms of blood magick] the female reproductive cycle is a powerful life giving thing [as corny and odd as that sounds... at least to me] our blood contains energy, and the extra energy from the reproductive cycle would give this blood twice the power of regular blood from say your finger. spirits are basically energy orbs, so in theory, they would be attracted to menstrual blood so they could gain more energy so they could keep their form. Rori [spirit who lives with me] will sometimes get rather weak and drain some of my energy through a Ouija Board so he can still follow me around every day.
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Nekoshema, you answered it too well for me. I really appreciate! Thanks

The Spirit that follows you, did u ever see it? Or u just feel strong energy by ur side?
Can spirits be seen ? Given if they are of a human, can we get to see their physical form ever, the form in which the exist before? Or its just the shadows and scents?
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Re: Spirits and Humans..
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The Spirit that follows you, did you ever see it or you just feel strong energy by your side?

i saw Rori once when i was 17, but he doesn't like people seeing him, i don't know why. my mom was being bothered by a reoccurring dream of hers [or possibly a spirit, not sure, long story] when i walked back into my room he was standing there, said something then vanished. only full apparition he's ever done. typically i see him as a shadow, my ability to see spirits have gone down over the years, i can sense and hear them, seeing is a bit hard for me. like i said, i sense him, or hear him, i first met him when i was young, so i could see him [shadow] pacing my room.


Can spirits be seen?

some people have stronger clairvoyant abilities than others, as well as some spirits have more energy. if a spirit is strong enough and someone has the ability to see spirits, then yes, they can be seen. certain equipment can detect and photograph spirits, but the technology has been disputed, so there are very few actual images of spirits on film.

Given if they are of a human, can we get to see their physical form ever, the form in which the exist before? Or its just the shadows and scents?

as i said yes, but i'm not 100% sure, i think a spirit can choose any form they feel most comfortable with. they're energy of a past life, to them age and gender is optional since they're just energy. some spirits i've met were female in life, but male spirits because they want to be. it's odd, i don't understand, spirits lie so they could be messing with me, but if reincarnation is real, then we could be reborn as a different gender, even different species, so whatever feels most comfortable for the spirit. most though try to conserve their energy, so they're orbs or shadows. when i say shadow though, i don't mean a shadowman or a persons shadow, it's more like [for me anyway] a sketchy outline of something that would move around the place, and it isn't 2D like a shadow would be. the more whole an apparition, the more energy it takes, which is why it's rare to see a solid apparition.

also, like i said spirits can choose their age, gender and species it seems, so a human could die and be a wolf spirits in theory. i have met a couple animal spirits as well, after a couple of my pets died suddenly some would stick around the house. my cat would curl up at the foot of my bed when it was alive. when he died, i would see a pair of eyes some nights, hear a purring noise, then feel an animal jump onto my bed and curl up at my feet. some nights i would move my feet to check if something was there [because i had another cat] i would feel something in the way for a few seconds, then it would vanish, but i never heard something jump off my bed, or feel it move, it would just be there one moment, gone the next. i got use to it, and some mornings i would wake up and there would be an indent in my bed like something was in that spot. there could be a logical explanation like a dream or a child's imagination, but it would happen for a few years afterwards, even if we moved, so i like to think it was my pets visiting me.
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You were only 17 when u saw the first spirit in your life ( i am supposing he was the first spirit u saw) What were ur exact feelings at that time? were u afraid? how did u overcome that? confused? u probably started reading about it? People tend to hide such incidents, what do u say abt that?

N thank you for sharing with me the account of ur interaction with spirits and your detailed reply.. Really grateful!
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Re: Spirits and Humans..
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Lol no Rori wasn't my first spirit. That was probably my great aunt. When I was little we use to have brunch every Sunday at my cousin Sids bed and breakfast, after we would go into the livingroom and hang. There was a woman who sat in a rocking chair by the window. I use to sit on the couch and she would tell me stories. When I got older I was speaking with my father about childhood memories and that woman came up. Dad told me he remembered I use to stare at the empty rocking chair that use to belong to my great aunt who died before I was born. They found it strange I was so mesmerized with the chair and would say goodbye to it when we left, but they ignored it because they figured I was playing a game or something. Plus many people in my family see spirits and have visions so its just normal for us.

I don't think I've ever been scared by a spirits, but I don't scare easily. Normally I see/hear/sense something and that's it. Unless it tries to scare me I'm not afraid of them.
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Re: Spirits and Humans..
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In answer to the one question that wasn't exactly answered, yes menstrual blood is an attractor to spirits (usually negative ones) in some traditions. This is why when building certain temples, men who's wives were menstruating were excused from work. It was believed that these men became tainted by their wives impurity and therefore should remain away from the sacred spaces. This idea of a woman on her menstrual period being impure is an older idea than the Christian God cursing women for their disobedience to him and their trickery of Adam. It was involved in the idea that blood is a sacred life force, one which if you were not careful with, could take your life if you give too much of yourself. Women giving this life force away each month in a way which makes it seem as if her insides are bleeding out tended to make people a little worried and uncomfortable (as it does today). On top of this, in some cultures blood, sickness, and injury was considered an offense or an affront while in a sacred temple space, so a woman going through her natural cycles was not something that was allowed in this space. I'm sure exceptions occurred, as they always do, however I thought it important to point all of this out.
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Thankyou Nekoshema and Cursebringer for ur replies..

Seeing spirits must be interesting, but I guess people are born with the gift.
Did spirits ever tell u what happens after death? U mustve asked abt the phases and transitions one goes through. .

Makes sense that menstruating was rather a punishment from God for misleading Adam.. but I don't understand, we must be part of spirit if Eve to be living with curse.. or is it that after death spirits divide which could explain for the growing population. But then again, it was in the bible n the books before that saying that the world begin from Adam n eve. How can v blindly follow what was written so many centuries ago. They could be made up stories. How can we know n get to the truth?
Why did God leave us so clueless in this world. . I often wonder..
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Are spirits as clueless about the world as we are? If death wouldnt bring us answers to our questions, that means even after death, there is a long way to go. n IF ones fate is predestined, then i guess we are just random characters in the video game of God..?


@Nekoshema, did u ever meet a spirit which claimed to have committed suicide? Did they ever reveal stories saying that it was a huge mistake n they are to be punished again for it?

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Re: Spirits and Humans..
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@ CurseBringer thanks for explaining, i didn't know that.

@ Broken345, it is told in the bible [and torah] that we are decedents of the first humans; Adam and Eve. [you also have Lilith, but their offspring became demons, long story, don't worry about it] as a result, woman are cursed just as she was, because she's our relative. [way way way back according to the bible] in fact, there's a lot of stories throughout history about a curious woman dooming the planet to explain why woman are inferior to men. in regards to your following a book quandary, it's faith. you were either a god fearing christian or you were a hieratic that was cast out and/or killed for your belief. you can't argue with a persons faith, it's something they feel is true deep inside themselves, and no amount of evidence or proof will change their minds. we were clueless in the Garden of Eden and we were happy, once we took a bite of the fruit of knowledge, we saw we were naked and hid our shame. basically ignorance is bliss, and knowing too much will make your head explode i guess.

seeing spirits, some are born with the abilities, but it can be learned, however, not everyone has the ability to see them. [but they might be able to see demons or certain astral beings. i can't see demons] children normally can see spirits because our eyes are different, as we age, our eyes change, and many loose this ability. i did, i was able to see apparitions, now it's shadows. Rori was the last apparition i saw.

what happened after death? like a white light? no, never asked, and few spirits like to speak of it. i guess it's some undead rule or something. i don't know what happens after death, i believe spirits do know but for whatever reason they cannot tell us. no, i haven't met one that committed suicide. i've met those who have died from disease, old age, sudden accidents, even one that was murdered, but not suicide. as i said, they don't really like talking about it. if you had a traumatic experience, would like to speak about it to every random stranger? unless it's a friend i don't ask about death, i ask them about their life and what they're doing now. Rori is the only one who i want to know more about, but he doesn't want to talk about it, so we normally just goof around when we speak. he's not the most co-operative person to work with. most spirits i speak to will answer pretty much every question in great detail, but with Rori it's a game, he likes answering in riddles, or just going around in circles to see my coven and i get flustered.

i do have a friend who committed suicide many years ago, sad as it sounds, i try my best to avoid speaking with him, just because i don't want to hear from him. i finally visited his grave a few summers ago [we live far away because i moved, so i couldn't even make it to his funeral] i sat by his grave, it was just quiet, an eery silence to be honest, and i made my peace with him. i don't know if his soul is resting, reincarnated, or with his family, but i haven't seen/heard from him in almost 10 years. plus spirits rarely stay in cemeteries, so i figure that's the last place i would of found him.

i know this might seem cool to someone who isn't use to it, but i never really seek out spirits. i'll just bump into one and say hi, that's basically it. Rori just came into my room one night when i was a kid, we talked and i invited him to stay.
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I've seen spirits and learned a great deal about the afterlife. There's only so much I can say, though, since different people can see it differently. To put simply, it is a wonderful place. The dead are happy, but not as we would define happy. The joy they feel is a product of their sense of fulfillment rather than pleasure. They just, as we might say, feel great to be alive and are glad to reincarnate as part of their growth. They all feel they have a place in the Universe, and choose it for themselves. Fate and destiny are not assigned, they are volunteered for to be followed in life.

Some don't always transition well from life to death, suicides are one example, and such people are at the minimum very scared and confused. Thankfully, there is a sort of "therapy" to help people come to grips with themselves and their situation. They all eventually find their way, even evil souls one day escape their inner torment (there really isn't a Hell besides the internal one they inflict on themselves) and feel the love everyone shares with one another. I cannot say too much more, as much of what I saw I cannot share in any way except to tell others how to learn it for themselves.
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