Telekinesis and Magia

Kenisis isn't possible. It is fantasy as in not real .
Kenisis and the concept of defies the laws if nature that all beings and matter have to obey by. Magick is no different.
I suggest you re address the concept of the possibilities of magick and aline yours to that. However as things stand today in January 2014 it isn't possible.

Magick is working with the energies of the universe and it is mainly spiritual. Telekinesis is related to mind and mind power. There is a vast difference between the two. One is possible while the other is not.
At present, it is not possible to do telekinesis with the human mind power. Telekinesis is not possible either with the help of magick. As autumn told, magick works with the laws of universe and does not defy them or cross the limitations of reality.
Hence, please refrain from spreading or feeding false information, as simply put, telekinesis is 'not possible' and neither is element manipulation nor any form of kinesis. Elements cannot be controlled. This is not a fantasy site and life is not avatar the last airbender. It's surprising how people expect so much from magick.

Telekinesis is not possible and just because you rant about it dosent make it true, Also just a reminder that role-playing is not allowed in the forums and please watch your language

Until you prove that it does not exsist, it exsist. I have been reading a book called book of unxplainrd. There clearly saids that pk (psychokinesis powers) have been proven by science.

"Practise makes a man perfect" - nice words aren't they? But practising what seems unreasonable and unrealistic does make one master in that. Say if you practise night and day to lift a house, will that make you do that? Will it make it easy or does that waste your time on something that is clearly known to be not possible? Kinesis is similar to this example, trying something meaningless that does nothing but waste your time. You may continue with your opinion or believe whatsover, but stop feeding false news to others.

Ever heard for Seed on seed bread, stone on stone palace (probably not it is our national saying). What it means is that you develop step by step and you start with lifting piece of paper then pencil then a hat and so on. My point is you can develop all that through power of will and practice but i havent said that anyone can do that. Also look all gods and godness of our believe have omni power. That means that if they wouldnt havent omni powers they would not be god but just "mortal person". If they have no ability they aren't gods. Conclusion saids that god can only exsist if he has omni powers and that mean that they EXSIST. Now ask yourself who is giving fake hope to newcommers i with

theory or you with not argumented words...

Sandzak. "Everything is possible".
Try running through a brick wall. Better still, try growing wings and flying.

This post is unreasonable and meaningless. Sandzak, your rants won't change reality. This is a site where we discuss about real magick and not rant over fictional topics. Refrain from providing your own theologies/ideologies on topics that are not possible. Telekinesis is not possible, keep that in mind. Use your common sense and brood over the topic, you'll get the answer.

Books can say many things, but are they reliable books? If you're going to claim that psychokinesis has been proven by science then you would need to provide peer-reviewed scientific evidence to back up that statement or it is meaningless.

To date, no form of kinesis has been shown to be real. Thus it must remain in the realms of fantasy until clear scientific evidence by credible researchers has shown it to be fact.

I am locking this thread as it is turning into nothing more than an argument.