I meant the story in which the Goddess Oshun was attempted to be murdered with honey...
and did't mean to write the names on separate papers, that would be stupid. On the same paper, just not on top of each other.
as far as i don't tell that such a spell is bad or wrong, sometimes things need to be diluted; not everyone can take the same amount. But I guess, subtlety is not for everyone.
Oshun isn't a Goddess. She's an Orisha, which isn't a goddess/deity. And yes, there is a story where she was almost poisoned with honey. However, from what I understand from Lucumi Priests, she likes honey as an offering so long as you taste it each and every time to ensure it isn't poisoned.
The separation of names, even on the same paper, separates the people. If the goal is to have them come together, you put a name on top of the other to show the connection/relationship/domination.
Anyways @ASKER - Stop writing in Caps Lock its scary
Now do a research and find out which God/Goddess is involved in Hoodoo work, or say Honey jar spell in particular
Try doing a little apology from your side, a simple meditation and saying sorry with all due respect
Focus on their sigil/sign, light a candle, offer honey or something and just meditate
If you can connect ask them to help you, most Gods and Goddess are friendly they will certainly help!
Or just pray to any God or Goddess you follow and ask them for help.
Let that honey jar go in running holy water.
And ummm let him calm down? If you two WERE in a relationship he will definitely feel like he blocked you for no actual reason, it will take time but it will happen!
And, sweetheart, we all are NOT stupids that we meditate each day, try telepathy, try to learn more... we all have problems regarding love, parents and legal stuff, magick is not a solution... try using your own love first, if it does not help take help of Goddess then...and if nothing helps then you should jump to spells!
And cos you like caps lock so much
TRY CONTACTING YOUR BOYFRIEND'S SPIRIT GUIDE AND TELL THEM YOU ARE SORRY FOR MESSING UP!
Sometimes when casting spells it goes wrong when trying to re-create a power already there. By re-creating your love on top of what was there it has been 'deleted' now all he has is... neutral. Try the Time Table spell: Go out in the rain and shout 'Eviderous' thinking of all your strongest moments with him, the next day try to talk to him again. Let me know how it goes ;)
Re: Honey Jar spell backfired By: WhiteRav3n / Knowledgeable
Post # 28 Aug 20, 2013
Kache, I agreed with you until you said:
"The Christian God is who is called upon in Hoodoo."
This is incorrect. Hoodoo, like witchcraft, has no religious affiliations and can be practiced under any theology. It has its roots in the original African beliefs AND Native American beliefs (along with some European influences), and that is where the actual ways of hoodoo stem from. However, all in all, it is nothing more than a specific folk magick system shaped through time and oral tradition. Christianity only came into play when the Christians shoved their religion down the Native American and African American people's throats. So instead of throwing away their ways, they adapted their folk magick to fit. Even the Native American medicine of many of our great grandmothers included the psalms (as unfortunate as that is). But this is not the natural or original beliefs the ways were founded on. And that just goes to show how old and versatile this form of magick really is. It has lasted the test of time without so much as a dent in its authenticity.
Here is a good article on it, for those of you interested.
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-truth-hoodoo-5471091.html
Hoodoo is worked one of two ways for it to be "traditional" Hoodoo. Either with no spiritual affiliation or with the Christian God (some regions use Saints, others do not).
You cannot incorporate another deity into Hoodoo and still call it Hoodoo (Keep in mind that ATR's, are actually Christian based and their spirits are seen as the connection between man and God, though their terminology isn't what you'd typically see).
When the folk magic was first brought over here, it was seen as odd and looked upon poorly. To "hide" it, Christian concepts and influences were used - which is where we actually get Hoodoo from. It's origin may not have been strictly Protestant Christian, but when it evolved from being foreign folk magic and turned into Hoodoo, Christianity was the base and influence.
It quite literally changed from mixed folk magic into Hoodoo by this influence.
Since Hoodoo became popular online, there has been many misunderstanding about it's origin, it's evolution and why it's current evolution is limited to availability of products (keep in mind that Hoodoo was for the poor. They worked with what they had, where as we now have the luxury to purchase our wants).
If you work Hoodoo and you wish to call upon "the god who works with Hoodoo", it's going to be the Christian God. There is no way around that. If you call on anything else, it's no longer Hoodoo
You can check the Independent Associate of Rootworkers and ask ANY of the rootworkers there who are Hoodoo if there is anyone else to call upon while working Hoodoo, the answer will be no - with the exception of ancestors and Saints, which doesn't fall under the "god" category.
I assure you that this isn't just a personal opinion. Hoodoo is my path, it's what I teach my kids. I am in many groups with other rootworkers (many of whom are well known authors) and I am submerged into the culture. There are constant discussions, debates and out right fits thrown over the new age version of Hoodoo where many Pagans come into the path unwilling to work with the Christian concepts or God, and choose to instead work with their deities. Any old time Conjure folk will tell you that not only is it wrong and a mockery of the tradition, it's an insult to use the term Hoodoo when such practices no longer make it Hoodoo.
You cannot just "do what feels right" in this path. Eclecticism has no place here.
Please feel free to look up Lucky Mojo (cat has studied and been part of Hoodoo for decades), Mama Starr, Dr. E, Professor Ames or Papa Matt. All are well known within the tradition.
On the magic side of it, it is a mixture of African, Native American and European practices. On the spiritual side (which is heavy within the community and is only seen as separate by "outsiders"), it's Christianity.
Also, keep in mind that rootwork and Hoodoo are similar, but not the same. Members of the ATR's do rootwork, and as such can call upon the Lwa and Orisha's. While it is similar to Hoodoo in magical concepts and methods, the lack of actually incorporating the specific Christian god is what separates it from Hoodoo.
And as to the "shoving Christianity down throats"..Christianity was present in Africa long before slaves had it "imposed" upon them here. Many of the ATR's, were formed BECAUSE of the Christian influence, evolved slightly when stopping in the Caribbean, and continue to this day. As outsiders, we tend to see this as a spiritual intrusion, however I can promise you that members of Vodou or Lucumi are probably really grateful that their religion stemmed from spiritual intrusion.
