see, now karma is a tricky one, because even if a chaote says it isn't real doesn't mean it isn't there, by letting go of karma in the eyes of a true chaote it would mean taking good and evil as a duality and opposing them against eah other and resolving them into nothingess, thus ascending past both, how can karma effect you if you don't view it through normal human perception, as the soul grows the more understanding it recieves about the greater scheme of things. a chaote who has gone past good and evil would live along the crede of of do what though will, because they will know good and evil is choice, and all actions have a reaction, cause and effect, like i said, karma is a tricky one, i know it is real, but only some will believe me, others will say i'm full of it, but once you remove karma and burn it of in this life instead of the afterlife you start seeing everything for what it truly is, you don't look outisde the box, you don't have any box left ;)
Lol no your fine Healer. If one doesn't ask how will they know. Also, I personally dont believe in Karma. Maybe it just hasn't effected me yet or enough for me to be convinced that its real and thats its not self-guilt.
So then, instead of karma being your compass, fearing that what you do will come back...it would more be like positive thoughts bring positive actions?
If you do something and have the guilt of it being wrong, for whatever reason, then the negative you have now created around you will be what is brought to you? Not that there is something out there watching you and waiting to strike, but more that what energy you have put out is what will be attracted to you.
Or perhaps nothing at all happens other than reactions and what you see as bad luck or bad things happeneing only look that way because that is how you choose to see it. They are simply reactions that have no side to them.
My brain is vomiting. This is why I have a hard time meditating...it never shuts up!
"If you do something and have the guilt of it being wrong, for whatever reason, then the negative you have now created around you will be what is brought to you? Not that there is something out there watching you and waiting to strike, but more that what energy you have put out is what will be attracted to you."
That is what everybody believes is Karma. The kind of energy you give out will be bought back times 3.
"Or perhaps nothing at all happens other than reactions and what you see as bad luck or bad things happeneing only look that way because that is how you choose to see it. They are simply reactions that have no side to them."
That is my belief. If you do not believe in it then it will not effect you. But when people do stuff, it weighs heavy on their conscience. Thats when bad stuff happen to them and they blame karma. But its just them who are out of it. You can apply the belief that what energy you give out comes back at you there. But I dont believe it. Lol yea it may seem like it makes no sense but in the midst of it it does.
the way I view is is this: Karma is a sequence of balances. the reaction of cause and effect. If one overly invests worry into its nature, it will draw it to you.
Many people feel guilty over little things as easily as big things, and the guilt causes a Karmatic effect even if it is not truly so. So I believe.
I have used chaos energy to an extent, I can't honestly say I know nearly as much as Kao or Balance or have trodden that path as far. But I deal mostly with Essences, not.. actuality if that makes sense.
Shadows are a preferred path for me (off topic I know) but energies from all walks of thought and life can be bent and manipulated if one's will is strong.
The ideals of the chaote to do what they will, obtain the results and let nothing hold you back is something I follow. at least in part.
I've felt a lot of heat using such energies before, but possibly the way I channel it has kept it from going out of control.
I find utter truth in Kao's words about unblocking yourself with ego death, meditation, personal growth. Such are the many keys to all we need after all.
Chaos has always felt to me like one of the primal forces, ancient and deeply strong. An energy that burns and deadens all others if used.. unwisly.
I would be intregued to hear more or you're and Balances experiances, should you two be willing to share.
just a quick note... once you have reached the point of being able to actually harness Khaos energy... there are very few risks involved... when i had my "close call" i was actually pushing out to specifically effect and affect my skin... i have been practicing with needleless tatoos... the ability to manipulate pigment beneath the skin to your will... i have also been using Khaos energy to manipulate the colours themselves to bright colours instead of just brown... that specific evening i had been playing around with it and when done i got pulled into a conversation that was very intense... i had to source answers from the universe itself in order to help the girl i was talking with... and i just kind of overloaded... too much inner and universal energy coming in at once and because my skin is so fair and thin... it just reacted badly... since then i have learned to release using my pineal gland instead... and it works so much better... each person needs to just find their own ways of doing the same thing... what works for me may not work for you.
Some people channel Khaos as an outside element, for me and Balance it is a bit different, we generate it from our actual souls core, her to slightly lesser extent than me for she is more of the positive aspect of being, thus we attain our own khaotic balance ;)
Khaos energy is something i believe you should play around wiht a bit more Flagg, even if only to enhance your current workings, because it is so primal it can be combined with any other elements to create a MUCH stronger effects, use it as a tool to help you reach further, Khaos is infinite, thus working with it's essence leaves quite a big space for playing around if you know what you are doing eg.you can take an atom and isolate it with khaos, create a push pull tension simultaniously and force a split, at the same moment of this compress the khaos inward to contain and compress the release, compress this into a singularity and then force it to implode on itself and then compress outward again 4th dimensionally, do this about 3 times so you have 6th dimensional khaos energy, or whatever energy you used the khaos to compress, it kinda takes the current energy potential of a servitor and flushes it down the toilet, drop me a pm if you want to discuss it more, i don't want to go into too much detail on an open forum because as you know it both can create and destroy.
I use khaos energy in healing to some degree, but only to clear the blockages and heal on a soul level, then i overlay the essence of light energy onto this, or dark energy according to the specific person i am working with, with a combination of guided meditation and khaos energy i can generate a state of ego death in a person, even a single moment with no worldly ego is often enough to make a big change in a life, i use khaos also both for offense and defense.
Anyone who wants to attempt working with Khaos on any level please treat it with respect, it is truly primal, you don't want to turn such a primal energy against yourself.
So if someone was to gather Khaos from an Outside source, where would they get it from? Is the Infinite Khaos within our souls too? And maybe one day, can we be able to use Khaos from our energy source? Lol yea they seem simple but I would like them answered.
I like the way you are thinking Trav, because think about it, if Khaos can be used to compress energy into various dimensions in time it may be possible to use the same concept to compress actual matter into 4th dimensional matter, now if you were to do this with a fuel type which burns slowly eg. parafin, you would end up with something really powerfull as a fuel which burns cleaner and longer than conventional fossil fuels. Khaos energy is all around you, drop me a pm trav and i will teach you to feel for it, once you feel it you can use it, everyone contains some Khaos within, it is the spark of the soul, for some people it is just more than a outside element, as some are born with the element earth wind water or fire within, some, very few are born with true Khaos present within. and this is a invitation to trav, not a public invitation.
Even if you do not use khaos energy as your own it can be used to help everyone reach their true potential to some degree by unblocking blockages, but how many people are truly ready to let go of everything when their time comes to move forward into the unknown part of the soul and mind.
