Also i'm very confused... someone told me that freezer spells can not be used to harm another taking away free will is harm in a way yes. But i meant like causing someone physical pain and dying and such. You have to chant "Harm to none so mote it be" When you're done so that's why i thought i understood after.
@ Electraheart thanks for the explanation, I have very little voodoo knowledge outside of one book I read about 10 years ago [that tongue spell I heard of, but you cooked the tongue, not froze it.]
Even though you say 'harm none' at the end of the spell, it doesn't wipe the slate clean and no one is harmed. Spells can backfire. Plus magick isn't a straight line. You could ask for money, say 'harm none' and the next day find 5$ on the street. That money came from somewhere, so someone must of dropped it. It might not be a big deal if the person is financially stable, but what if a kid dropped his lunch money? You need to think about the possible outcomes and word your spell accordingly. With this spell, you are phasing her out of your life? [I don't know the exact details] then it shouldn't impose on her free will, but don't assume no harm would come. She will probably start going to new places and stop bumping into you, but say she loosed her job and is forced to move away. That would be harmful. Again, I doubt that's what would happen, but its a possibility.
Regarding your dad, sorry to hear about that. I had a friend who started demanding I cast for every little thing after a luck spell brought him a lot of luck. Stand up and explain why you should not and cannot cast for everything. Your father should understand. If not, consider moving. You are 19, while it might not be the best option, it is an option you can take.
Technically yes i want her out of my life, but i also want her to KNOW that she as in the wrong in order to protect myself from being gossiped about. It was really bad when i was in middle school, and the emotional scars still follow me till this day. I had absolutely no will to live then.
Honestly i don't care if anything bad happens to her. If the spell could do WORSE that i would be happy as an elf. I'm extremely hurt and aggravated by her. It's been hard to sleep at night, and i put a lot of anger into that spell. It's just i don't know how to do those types of curses that can do more to her. I thought about the consequences or whatever i just didn't know how to do it that's all. I'm not sympathetic towards people who hurt me. So i have no care about her well being.
I'll get through with my dad. I took a break and have been talking against magic since. If he finds out anything i'm just going to make it clear that i'm going to be solo. He'll be mad but he'll move past it. Yes i'm 19, but not mentally. I'm depressed and very young at heart for my age. My mom doesn't even want me to leave yet. I know nothing about the world.
I can tell. Like I said, it was an option, not the best, but an option.
While cursing isn't the best option and casting a spell because of emotions typically ends badly, curses are easier than people think. You could unintentionally curse yourself. I'm not going to give you a curse, but of you know how to cast a positive spell, you can cast a negative one. Focus your hatred onto the person instead of having a calm mind and using positive energy. Having her know its you would be tricky unless you hand her a cursed object, tell her, or pester her. If you hate her so much and want rid of her though, i would stick with this freezer spell and work on letting go of these feelings. It's not easy, but its better than keeping this hatred inside because whose to say a curse would get rid of this negativity?
so i read through all this, i understand you have had some dark moments with people being ignorant, and such, i just want to put in my 2 cents, i have always believed most things happen for a reason, even if you don't see the reason now, i personally would have lots of conflict doing any spell to another person in that situation, all though i do not know the exact circumstances of your situation, all i can say is that, maybe it was for the better that all that negative stuff happened to you, sometimes it takes that for a person to find their true path, you know? so instead of having vengeance on your mind, look to the future, as it can only get better, another thing is, the more friends you have, the more drama you have! haha, sometimes it is better to not have friends, because when you do find a true friend, you will know, it is better to have a couple true friends then a bunch of fake friends, i'm not saying it was right of any of them to make you feel so bad, but think about it, it is possible that you wouldn't be where you are today if it wasn't for that negative action from them, just keep your head held high and brush off the ignorance of majority, people don't like to think there is stuff they don't know, people are stubborn and ignorant, if you ever need anyone to talk to, i'm here! :)
Yup, that sounds about right. That's exactly what i did unintentionally though. No positive energy went into that spell at all. Just hate, regret, and sadness. I don't care about the karmatic affects anymore, and haven't since i started with magic again. It's not easy for me to let go of things because i have a mood disorder, and asperger's syndrome. Things stick to me like glue.
And Nativewolf the things that have happened to me in my life, have not been beneficial in anyway and never will be. I've done so many things to myself because of the constant pain i was in growing up. It made me not want to have a future, and i honestly don't want one now. I'm aware more friends cost you more drama, but because i was so lonely, i forced myself to be friends with this girl who i was semi-aware was not good because i was in-denial. Nothing that has happened to me has made me anything more than a sensitive and fearful person that's it.
i see, well none of us know the future, you could be very very important to someones future, and not realize it, ever, i do know that in certain situations talking it out can help, but to me it sounds like you need a true friend who will understand you for you, and will be there to support you through thick and thin, if you continue on the path of life, i'm sure you will find someone in that aspect! in either circumstance though, we make our own future in a way, whatever you decide, there is no right or wrong, only choices, thousands and thousands of choices that all lead different directions, i understand how people can be towards people they deem "different" especially in school, it's a melting pot of judgement and trying to "fit in" i also understand how things can stick to you, i don't know what medical term it is or what not, but i do understand that, i can be that way as well, maybe not as bad but i can see where you are coming from, from my native american heritage, "curses" and spells which are positive are very true, i don't know much about the 'pagan' and 'witch' or even 'hoodoo or voodoo' whichever is the correct term, unless they are same thing but different spellings, all i know is they work if done right! either way, you will make the right choice :) i hope you find a good person to be a true friend! everyone deserves at least that in life ^.^
Nativewolf Thank You for your understanding and kind words. :)
Anyways, just as an update the girl who i did this freezer spell on has vanished. In other words i don't see her AT ALL anymore. We had only started talking again for almost a year and she had only just recently started to get aquatinted with one of the guys in my class who i talk to, and this other dude who started talking to us randomly. Both had asked me what happened to her because they hadn't seen her in atleast 3 days. I told them it was because i was there and since she's so mad she didn't want to see me. It's been like more than a week now.
She isn't at the bus stop anymore after class, i even waited an extra 20 minutes last week to see if she would show and she didn't. So i don't know what her ride home is? Unless she isn't coming to school like my mom thinks? So she never comes to the usual place where i am after school, and she isn't there in the mornings with those two guys who i hang with. I mean doesn't she care about the new people she's met? Very weird indeed. She seems to had just vanished, i mean honestly i don't know if it's my spell because i distinctly remember her saying that we would not be spending anymore time together and i either did the spell that day or the day after. If it was the day after then i'm not sure if it's the spell or not. Regardless my spell's intent was to get her to apologize and not gossip so idk.
Nope! She had a sudden death in her family. It was that mixed with the fact that she didn't wanna see me anymore I believe. I built up enough strength and faith to text her yesterday saying that I don't hate her if she thought I did. (That was a lie though I just wanted to see what she would say...) then she said she didn't hate me either and hasn't even been Thinking about what happened because of the sudden death. Then she started laughing and talking about a guy we used to talk to together who liked her and said she would tell me if anything happens with him. (I really don't wanna know though I mean.... We still aren't friends but it seems she has really gotten over it.) She doesn't hate me, in a way apologized I guess and won't be gossiping about me, which confirms that my spell worked. Or it was a coincidence I mean idk... She's a really bad person to begin with. .-.
