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The earliest signs, written by human hand or carved from bone and wood, it had a magical character. The most ancient monuments of this kind belong to the Paleolithic and dated XVII-XVI for thousands of years before the RH
Rahill, I want to ask you, for you there is a difference between history and fairy-tale world of books?
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Uh wolfstar NO, fantasy and magic are two different things and never will the two ever meet. Gravity is one law magic 'cannot' break. Witches could never fly not now not back then in the 'Age of Magic'....
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An interesting theory wolfstar, though I doubt the laws of physics could be manipulated by the inhabitants of a single planet. I do agree with the idea that the Universe is ultimately a creation of our collective consciousness, which is essentially God.

However, there is one factor you are forgetting with your theory. While thought and intention can "warp reality" (in my experience it's been limited to probability, i.e. "making luck"), magick requires a "price" to perform, not unlike Equivalent Exchange in FMA (the anime forgets the catalyst price, however). One example is that lifting an object with telekinesis requires at least the same amount of energy as you would need to lift it with your body, with your concentration determining the efficiency of the spell. A "powerful wizard" simply manages to achieve 100% efficiency through concentration, which lowers the amount of energy needed. This principle places a general "cap" on a person's magical power.
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wolfstar.vis- I have to agree with you there. I thought about something similar to that a few months ago. Not as far as to explain why flight might be too difficult though.

FaithSeeker- About the "cap." As you say there is a certain limit to what the human body can handle, but I believe that flight is within those limits. Maybe not as fast as an air liner but maybe as fast as you can run. It is physically possible to do the most amazing things with your body. You can do a one handed hand stand if you practice correctly, hold down two oxen going opposite directions, and even walk across fire, slowly. Of course I don't suggest anyone doing any of what I said unless you did the correct training.

Even if you can't fly, maybe you can use magick to help you jump higher till it's like your flying. Like how they do things in Chinese movies.

Just saying even though there are limits, there are almost always ways to achieve your desire within those limits. Like I can't fly, but I can use lucid dreaming to fly. So in a way, I can fly. Just not in reality.
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Darkie...did you just compare magic with what they do in 'movies' ??
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SpellcasterI- O gee, I did the all so great forbidden act, not. I used the movie to give you a visual reference to what I mean. When I said Chinese movies I mean about the the ones with old war references. Ancient Chinese heroes are know for their martial arts.
Yes in the movies the actors are using wires, but what of Jackie Chan? During his earlier years he often didn't use wires. Often, there are movies where he does, but in most movies he had no safety wires to make his movies as realistic as possible (As long as the stunt wasn't too crazy). I'm saying with magick, back in the old days a person could improve upon their skills and fight using magick to support their movements and style (Help them jump higher, Have them become lighter if not fly, Help them improve faster, heal faster, be faster and become stronger for slight moments in time).
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Back in the 'old' days magic was 'never' used in that manner.
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Yes there is a lot of difference between history and a fairy tale. .
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To be precise there seems to be about three limits to magick i know of.
The first one is the patron God(ess), they might not allow certain magicks to be used.
The second one is how much energy you are able to expend without becoming unconscious.
The third one is how able you are to use or resist the collective consciousness.

As for the repercussions, they only occur if you are facing another caster, someone of strong will or someone who has a spirit watching over him/her who can redirect the energies. This is my view anyways.
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Dear friends, this is an esoteric forum, and not a club visionaries. Why do you express your opinion as physicists, lawyers, psychologists, lovers of science fiction but not as people who believe in magic, magic addicted, live magic.
Many times I have heard the answers to the question - "What do I need basis"? I think you should have knowledge of the history of magic, and then everything else.
Magic is an ancient science, art and work.
Voodoo is the birthplace of the territory of modern Africa, Benin, where she was born from about 6000 to 10,000 years ago
The cult of voodoo began appeared between 1750 and 1785 years on the island - Haiti.
Virtually all scholars, indicate the presence of primitive man has developed ideas and magical rites. it is about 40-10 thousand years ago in the Late Stone Age ...
You can not compare with the magic of fiction or fantasy writer author of the book.
Not knowing the history you can not say witch can fly or not.
Witches daubed his body magic ointment, which allowed them to fly.

One of the doctors who performed in the XVI century against the witch hunt and called a few recipes of flying ointments. They contain the blood of a bat, fat baby, soot, and other plants, causing a person to a state of intoxication.

The doctor thought it possible that under the action of these plants are witches just seemed that they fly. Even some hunters are witches agree with that.
Recipes "flying ointments" set. Which one is true - almost no one knows. We know that in this ointment is included at least three herbs. A compulsory component of a fat, which was the basis for ointments and creams facilitates application of the body. Sometimes in the ointment was added soot, often - his blood, which adds a unique and ointments individual properties.
Of the plants in the ointment was added parsley, airny root, sunflower seeds, basil. Directly on the body and the bodies they did not act. We used their magical properties.

Few know the recipes for their preparation - you need to put on a special, very sensitive skin. In addition, extracts of plants require any - different "magic" additives and some other ingredients that I do not even want to call.
Almost all the plants that are included in the recipe, deadly poisonous. Remember the utmost caution with them. Rough handling can lead to death. Therefore, before dealing with these plants, think - you will be able to protect themselves? The slightest indiscretion - and no gliding wings ointment you no longer need, however, like everything else.
Even if I will publish here a real recipe for flying ointment you can not fly. You do not have a strong faith, knowledge and abilities. Hang in the air can only be elected.
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