I do not avoid them untd, you just don't understand my answers. No matter ehat biology of humans may be, what make humans alive is their soul. You are a soul, I am a soul, every human or living beeing on earth is a soul. We are spirits in a body and they are spirits without a body. It's not that hard to understand that.
Because all souls have been created with emotions. And again, as I'ge told you millions of times, they have different personality and some are more cold or warm than others but they feel. At least the warm ones. This is what you do, you declarify humans as being something different than otherworldy creatures but we are all energy.
This argument will not end. Now if both of you agree on everything I will again repeat myself this time around to both of you unhade and divinewisdom. The creatures known as humans are just ordinary earth animals and in truth emotions are only of living things, go ahead and argue with this. I know we are souls in a physical body and blah blah blah. But honestly the gods are not necessarily human souls. If what the two of you claim is true then it is just as possible that if two ants start arguing that all entities have 'ant emotions' and personalities this is also 'true'. So why would these entities choose to be like humans? Remember all living things evolved all their characteristics including emotions naturally
They Do Not Choose To be Like "Humans". God, all souls are consisted of this nature. Ants have souls, even plants do and every living organism. Gods are not huamns but it does not mean they do not feel.
I won't continue on with this, no mood in getting gagged.
Once again you avoided the key talking points. In your original response you declared that 'all spirits and entities have human emotions and personas'. Those were your exact words. Now after a few of my responses you seem to liken entities to ants and plants. Do you intend to imply that ants and plants also have 'human emotions' and personas? unhade and divinewisdom it is totally okey to admit that gods and goddesses are not necessarily 'human souls'. That is widely accepted. Do not be fooled by human civilizations. Humans used earth resources to provide for their needs. Just an ordinary primate trying to survive in the 21st century. Some entities are thought to be responsible for creation, do you still think they have human emotions and personalities.
You can establish many kinds of relationships with your guide, if they are interested. They have a variety of intelligence and personalities and often change over time, usually as you or them change. They can be as dumb as a being who screams when ever you do something gross or as intelligent as guiding you to take over the world (hitler). You can even come some as messed up as guiding you to an asylum or just plain messing with your head. Some just show up to guide you because of what you attract, personally I chose to choose mine, some people get rid of theirs and use ones they found along their journeys. Some are not human at all, sometimes you might want to decide who they are before you call them guide ._.
I think the crux of the current argument is just in mis-defining a few things. And maybe a missing critical word or two.
First, the definition of emotions versus thought/thought process. Emotion is pretty much universal, all beings have the same potential to feel love, or hate, or jealousy, or compassion, etc etc. They are basic functions of consciousness and interaction. The key word is 'potential' however. because there are a variety of reasons as to why different beings might feel or express different emotions, and also in different ways.
For example more experienced or advanced souls, the sort that are usually to the point of acting as guides and guardians, tend to be much calmer and are less likely to get a sense of anger or hate because they have developed a broader perspective, more experience, and likely a measure of patience and understanding. it does not mean they are incapable of the emotions, just that they may be at a point where they are more disciplined or worldly, so it is much harder to ruffle their feathers- So to speak. And of course when talking on differences between concepts of gods as divine beings versus guides as ascended masters, one needs to also define the differences between those concepts.
As far as the idea of there the line might be drawn for what orders of life might have emotion, consciousness, and/or spirit, that is a difficult one to define. For starters it is more of a gradient or grey area than it is any sort of black-and-white definition, so where that tipping point lies in that grey area is subjective to the individual. And then there are also concepts some adhere to that complicate things, Like collective consciousness, Gaia consciousness, etc.
For purposes of the original discussion, and to help give my own frame of reference, I do make a distinction between guides and gods. I define god as beings of power that operate within, and have authority over, a particular sphere of influence. Most often I see them as personifications of the elements and qualities they are associated with. For example Aries, as a god of battle, conflict, and war in general is a personification of those things, along with what comes through war. Such as bravery/courage, wits, strategy, strength, leadership, and aggression. However you would not expect to be able to make use of Aries' knowledge and support in things outside of those Qualities. Like for example matters of love, compassion, scientific exploration, fine art, or artistic music.
Meanwhile a Guide is a being who can be most easily described as simply an old soul who has reached a level of knowledge and experience where the idea of incarnation, on this plane or another, earth or somewhere else, has become unnecessary to them for learning. So they have begun fulfilling a teaching role instead of a student role, and share their knowledge and experience as an individual and with an individual. Which is why I call them 'ascended masters'. It means that they have reached a level of mastery in their personal development, and so have reached a point of ascending beyond attachments to the physical. As individual beings, they are not limited to any particular sphere of influence in the same way a god may be. Instead, they have skills and knowledge that is more or less a specialization depending on the focus of their own learning. Some may be more focused on the ideas behind energy working and healing. Others might be more focused on introspection, inward sight, and intuition. Still others might have a focus on protection and personal inspiration. And so on.
So to nutshell the difference, A god like Aries would embody the act of battle, and qualities of war. While a guide would be a teacher of the concepts and lessons that would help a person grow into becoming a warrior.
As for the idea that a person might develop a measure of intimacy with their guide, it is rare, but does indeed have the potential to be possible. Most often a guide would not really entertain the notion unless there was a purpose that could be gained from it. Something that might be learned or otherwise that would contribute to the personal growth of the person they are guiding. Normally Guides offer a different sort of intimacy born of providing a sense of connection and compassion, of support and friendship and confidence over a lover's gratification.
Of course it doesn't stop people from fantasizing about the possibility, and so there is always that fine, difficult to see line between a created event and a real one. I imagine the litmus I would use is as I said before, whether or not such an activity/union serves a purpose to teach you something about yourself, or if it is just personal gratification out of a sense of infatuation.
Hi spirit75 so the response was a little too lengthy. I could not read all of it in one go and given I had already freaked at it's size I sort of ran my eyes across it and couldn't seriously grasp your views on the obviously heated argument. You also seemed like you attempted to defend each and every point that both sides tried to raise. Hence I will respond to your first few lines: Well all beings do have the potential to feel emotions. But now 'beings' if I put your views to the test are honestly just all the living things. Even on earth alone the only entities with a connection to emotions, I will use the examples you gave ( love, hate, jealousy, compassion) are the living things. I mean you know very well there is still the 'inorganic portion' of the planet. You see there is no proof that gods are related to living things, of course we already mentioned that spirit guides are generally thought to have been humans at some point and I respect that. Also this time around I used the following definition for gods: Universal forces that are influential to existence and responsible for creation. Because if I extend my definition to include an already defined 'god' like Aries (defined using human perspectives and interactions) again you will have the problem of trying to figure out if any terms were mis-defined. I think you grasped what the crux of the argument is.
To find a Spirit Guide you must master meditation, once you do that, you start requesting to meet a Guide, I put it in that wording because you don't know who will step forward to assist you. They don't have human emotions, they are no longer living, they will however warn you of danger, tell you what, and where to find what you're looking for.
If you have the gift of Mediumship, your guides are essential to you any time you open to communicate with the dead.
