On the usefulness of the medical profession.

yes that's all very true and all about not having those medicines in the past. But we are in the present right now. When people are in a lot of pain, or are dying, it can change how they think. No patient I have ever met would ever choose yoga breaths over morphine, or do a couple of stretches instead of taking insulin.

Sure, taking breathing exercises and doing yoga or smoking weed have some medical pros, but if they were really that effective, surely more countries would have legalised weed and they wpuld be more widely used, instead of looking into new and innovative medicines.

It is great to know that you do acknowledge the above mentioned have some medical pros. There are people who feel cannabis is more effective a painkiller than 'morphine'. I bet some are on this site.

I don't recall recommending yoga for diabetes.

well since you were saying that medicine would be less relevant if we all practiced yoga and breathing exercises, surely that included treatments like insulin for diabetes, transplants for people with faulty organs or EpiPens for people with severe allergies etc.

And even if cannabis was as equally effective as morphine, morphine is basically never given out as a prescription. I know that cannabis is addicitve, like any other drug, whether they are medicinal or not. So even if it was used by doctors it's use would be heavily monitored and only given to those in severe need. But to be honest, if patients were in that much pain, doctors would still give them morphine over cannabis.

You are definitely right about diabetes I see no connection especially if it is inherited. But TaranGaia2 had already raised this question on her response.
Do you honestly think practicing yoga breaths will not reduce the possibility of organ failure?

Hello again, UnitedKngdom!

I am unsure how you did not see that the majority of responses to your post up to the point where I commented involve THC, Delta-9-THC, or marijuana, but that is neither here nor there.

Your claim about medicine being a relatively new concept would be one that I believe would shock many people to learn, especially as it has been proven that people have been using different forms of medicine, medical treatments, and practicing medicine throughout many different cultures world-wide over a period of centuries. (I would suggest that you may need to read Brysing's post on penicillin again, because you have clearly misinterpreted the meaning behind it.)

And since you have chosen to bring it up, lets discuss yoga. Since I currently, and have for many years participated in yoga classes on a weekly basis, I am very familiar with what it is and the various benefits one can get from it. And I would like to point out to you that you may need to do a bit more research about it yourself, otherwise you would have never used the "pregnant yogist" as an example to try to make a point. Had you properly researched it, you would have noticed that one of the things mentioned by nearly every yoga site that describes the benefits derived from participating in it is that persons with certain medical conditions may not receive any health benefits from practicing it, one specifically being women who are pregnant, especially without guidance. And your implication that the use of yoga during pregnancy will result in healthier babies is very misleading. The use of yoga during pregnancy is not credited with the prevention of any known birth defects, and should not be attempted without direction from a licensed yoga instructor since there are poses which will cause harm to the unborn child. (So perhaps it is a great thing that I have asked the questions that I did, or your misleading words above may have led to an unborn child being hurt.) As a matter of fact, clinical studies have shown that there is no concrete evidence that shows the participation in yoga will improve conditions like asthma or arthritis, as was believed in the past, either. And the statement that stands out the most in my mind comes from an NCCIH-funded study that has found that the people who really gain the most overall benefits from the use of yoga are those who are healthy to begin with.
Now lets talk THC, but just for a moment. (And just to let you know, cannabis has been used medicinally since about 2700 BC, so even this 'medicine' cannot be considered a 'new concept'.) Since I have never said anything with regard to the advantages or disadvantages of using it, I am not sure where you are coming from thinking I did unless you did not understand what I had posted originally. So maybe you should read it again. And if you have any more questions, I will be more than happy to take a break from my busy schedule to help you understand!

That is a rather long response. I am happy that you actually are one of the people who practice yoga. And it is not my fault that your instructor focuses on the poses. I made It clear on my post that I was referring to the breath part of yoga. In any case pregnant women do practice yoga. I know some personally and obviously they wouldn't participate in all the poses (I bet everyone has already figured that out).

I mean you think ancient healers were in the medical profession?

I see, based on your obvious horror over the length of my last response, that either you have been overwhelmed by my usage of too many words, or you have failed once again to grasp the meaning behind them. So out of my respect for you as a fellow practitioner, with this last response I will do my best and try to make this shorter and easier to understand.

The definition of the medical profession is as follows: "the body of individuals who help to maintain the health of others" (English Dictionary)

This is what 'ancient healers' did. They helped to maintain the health of others and this is indisputable. However, you also said that medicine is a new concept, which a simple search on Google will disprove. You have also, for some reason, assumed things about people you don't even know, with your assumptions based on what you obviously either didn't read thoroughly or were unable to understand, and in doing so, have made some statements that are both incorrect and irrelevant, so I will overlook those. I offered to explain any part of my reply that you couldn't grasp, but you apparently do not want to be assisted in that manner, and that is okay.

But let me explain something to you. When you choose to assume that the average person will automatically know something about a subject that may adversely affect someone's health, that shows an appalling lack of judgement that is both irresponsible and can cause a dangerous situation to occur and that, UnitedKngdom, is difficult to overlook. You should try to be more careful in the future so as not to make the same mistake. And as I never at any point said pregnant women should not practice yoga, it is clear that you chose not to pay attention to the information I presented to you with the hopes of increasing your own personal knowledge.

I am sorry if you thought you were being explicit about the "breath part of yoga" being the only thing you were referring to, but if you go back and read your own words again, I am sure you will see that you were not. And if you, after reading this and perhaps re-reading some of the prior comments, still cannot understand what has happened here, then I am also sorry for that too.

So I shall end this by saying good luck to you in all of your future endeavors, UnitedKngdom! May your path bring to you everything that you deserve!

Once again, allowing your ego to take control of the situation (Long and very personal response). I would be disappointed in the majority if they thought pregnant women (6 months+) can participate in all yoga poses. Wouldn't you TaranGaia2?

Just some advice: Never take personal anything said on public forums. Goodluck with eliminating your ego. It is the first step in learning magick. I bet all the 'acknowledgeable' SoM moderators know that ( Don't let your ego dictate that I incorrectly assumed that as well).

And don't forget to get yourself a new dictionary as the medical PROFESSION covers only the 'qualified' bunch.
Letting the ego control your focus is one thing but letting it alter dictionary definitions is very catastrophic Miss TaranGaia2.

'Humanity goes way back and 'medicine' (the profession) is RELATIVELY new'. Now did you just imply that this statement is incorrect?