Dragon theory

Hey everyone! I’ve just began boarding in my school and come up with a theory that could convince a modern-day scientist about the existance of the amazing creatures that we call dragons. Some of you think that all dragons are supernatural beings, but using iconography and lore I've come up with a theory on the existance and extinction of dragons:

The average person would tell you that dragons never really exitsed. That they are just products of human imagination and a mixture of several different animals such as lizards, birds, bats etc. but this was a theory professed by scientists during the scientififc revolution just because they had no physical proof of one, and this statement was just blindly accepted by the world despite them having no evidence denying their existence. But take this as an example, when scientists first heard about the duck-billed platypus in 1797 they dismissed it as being an imaginary fake. How could a mammal have a duck’s beak, the body of an otter, webbed feet, tail of a whale, be capable of laying eggs, and have cold-blood? Even with physical evidence they disregarded it. Yet by 1884 they had changed their mind. How does this same thing not apply to dragons? They too seem to be a combination of various other animals and evidence on written and visual records are dismissed.

Now I’ve just began boarding and one night whilst my dorm mates were sleeping, I couldn’t seem to fall asleep so I began to read my dragonology book ( as I can now only do things magick-related at night since it’s a prodigy school full of sceptical children) and found something very inspiring – the African wyvern dragon (a dragon that has two wings and two feet with bird-like toes) I then remembered biology class where we learned about the anatomy of birds I had that day and thought “how could humanity be so stupid?” if you look at an image of a wyvern dragon and compare it with a pre-historic terrasaur you’ll see that there’s virtually no difference between the two, and what proves it was related to dinosaurs is because of its reptilian features and its bird like features (as dinosaurs were very closely related to birds). Also if you were to ideate it landing on ground and folding its wings to its stomach you’d see it looks exactly like a bird.
And have you also noticed that all dragons in cultures have a striking resemblance to one-another? Like are all reptilians, they all breathe fire (except for the marine one) and these 'myths' were told by cultures that never could have met, each with their own species of dragon.
A scientist would say, "But there is absolutely no way a creature could breathe fire or fly with its seemingly massive weight. It just seems impossible!" But there of course must have been some sort of unique biological mechanism inside them. Every creature has one, though some scientists that believe they existed say hat they were able to deposit fire by combustion of hydrogen and methane, generating methane gas. This gas would also enable them to fly (what happens if you put methane in a balloon?)

My theory is that the species of dragon all started out 65 million years ago where there were only two types of dragon: the wyvern and the marine (long and slender with six limbs, but couldn't fly or breathe fire. It seems unlikely that a vertebrate would have six limbs but you’ll see that the dragon family has very freaky DNA when I come onto the Mexican dragons. The marine was most likely related to both the pre-historic wyvern and a certain species of marine reptilian. Perhaps crocodilian) when the meteorite hammered into the planet, only the marine dragon survived (as many water creatures were able to survive the event).
After the Earth healed itself again, some marine dragons came back onto land whilst others stayed in the oceans. The marine dragons on land had the same fire breathing mechanism as their extinct wyvern cousins but could only glide. But evolution took place from there.

Now in Eastern and Russian dragon lore you have long, thin slender dragons that were usually only able to glide but utilised the fire-breathing mechanism they had from their wyvern cousins. Before the KT event they probably had that same ability but didn’t really need to use it. Long and slender are the general characteristics you'd expect from a type of creature that had just previously evolved from a marine reptile. The Russian and Mongolian lindworm dragon (long slender with only two front arms) had probably been related to some legless serpent (as I said, extremely surreal genetic mutations) or perhaps evolved onto only having two arms. The story of Marco Polo seeing a lindworm in Mongolia has been dismissed as him mistaking the dragon for a crocodile, but a toddler could distinguish a two-limbed dragon from a crocodile, and Polo was an experienced explorer, surely he would have seen crocodilians before and be able to distinguish.

Now the other types of dragon (European, Greenlandic, Mexican and African) seem quite imaginative (particularly the Mexican type that has feathers and no legs) but bear with me. We all know that the dinosaurs’ closest relatives are birds, right? Well coming back to the wyvern dragon (which actually looked like a scaly bird) it was obviously a terrasaur and was clearly related to dinosaurs and since they were related to birds, the pre-historic dragons’ closest relatives must have somehow shared the dragon’s DNA but was also closely related to birds, so their long slender marine dragon descendants (who shared their DNA) must have evolved into the feathered dragon in some sort of unique way (remember that some species of raptor had feathers) they somehow must have evolved their wings into proper flight wings, their legs (if they had any) had probably melded with their tail due to lack of use, as limbs fuse with body parts in a lot of evolutions, and they had obviously grown feathers (if my theory is right then that must have been the FREAKIEST mutation in the history of the planet) but remember that the Tyrannosaur’s closest relative is a chicken which does give evidence for dragons being related to dinosaurs and terrasaurs.

With the wyvern dragon, they had probably evolved their gliding wings into flight wings as well and because of a lack of use of their two front legs, they had also evolved to become merged with their wings and easily evolved into a wyvern dragon like their pre-historic ancestors due to their DNA.
And finally the stereo-typical and most famous image of a dragon, the large 4-legged winged dragon that inhabited Europe and Greenland. A hollow cave on the top of a large mountain would be a suitable habitat for a dragon that would have to live in cold areas (particularly Greenland and Northern Europe) so for starters they had obviously evolved their front legs to be larger as they evolved for use in the habitat they occupied and of course had to evolve their wings into flight wings to fly long distances off of mountains.

But the reason why we don’t see dragons today is because of extinction. Dragons had become a threat to livestock in Mexico, Africa, Greenland and Europe so it had to be hunted down and terminated (and also it says in the Old Testament that dragons were demonic creatures) and in the East there were many superstitions about dragons, such as their blood had magickal properties inside and if you drink it you would gain good health, so they were hunted down and forced to extinction because of these myths and they could have posed a threat to livestock as well. However, the marine dragons scattered inside oceans could still be alive as humanity could not have hunted down reptilians that lived deep underwater and it is possible that the frost dragon that inhabited/s remote frozen regions and fe(e)d(s) on creatures such as polar bears, walruses, yetis and penguins and civilizations in arctic regions before the scientific revolution were not large or advanced enough to force them to extinction.

Now you may be asking “but what about the dragons that are supernatural?” The only ones that are, are the spirits in the Underworld that take on the form of dragons, and faery dragons, dragons that inhabit the astral plane and have strong links to the faery race.

So there you have it! A feasible theory about the natural history of the non-magickal dragons backed up with logic. Now all we need is physical evidence to prove their existance to sceptics!

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very lengthy.uhuhuh..try to summerise,the next time u post.

You seem to misunderstand what a scientific theory is. A scientist's job is to research and reach conclusions on subjects accepting what is truth. Something is not upgraded from a hypothesis to a theory unless it has sufficient evidence to prove itself. That is why both terms exist, one is a thought, the other is an accepted fact. Also, a scientists wouldn't directly look at some fantasy creature and point out that it doesn't exist, you can't disprove a negative. It would simply be seen as impossible and thrown out. So much variation in ancient writings would cause disbelief, you see. With no supporting evidence for such a creature in the fossil record, it is obvious they didnt', "go extinct" as many assume.

The platypus is something you can see and touch. With evolutionary science, such a thing wouldn't be considered entirely possible. Where did you get the idea that they didn't believe in it? Do you have any evidence to support such a claim? Keep in mind, these arguments come from claims that are over a hundred years old. We have better science and the theories have been altered to compesate the new evidence discovered over time. These "records" are most likely dismissed because they stretch outside of the reality. They are mythology, nothing more. Is there any record that isn't ridiculous? Please provide a source.

The book "Dragonology" edited by Dugald Steel was meant to be an entertainment book for children. Nothing more. Also, just because something shares similarites with something else, doesn't mean it's real and it certainly doesn't mean it has a connection to it. You would need a better argument and empirical evidence like, say, transitional fossils, to prove a connection between the two. No carbon-based lifeform back then that would have "gone extinct" would be able to light and produce hydrogen gas and methane within it's body. Nothing back then would be that advanced. Perhaps something like that would exist in the distant future, but not now and certainly not in the past. What evidence do you have to support the existence of such a mechanism? Please elabourate. Again, this is no "theory" as it is based on a book for children, not science. It is a hypothesis, and a pretty dead one at that.

Do you have evidence to support your claim about their DNA? How would anyody tell stories about them if they died out before man came? Man didn't exist until long after the ice ages, which was long after the strike of the meteorite creating Hudson's Bay. Ice ages happened after the meteorite, alot of them. The Earth didn't just "heal itself". Do you have any evidence for any Dragons mentioned after this point? Like say, fossils? You haven't presented any real empirical and solid evidence at all for your claims throughout this. You may need to undersatand how evolution works. It works through natural selection and random mutation. Something is dying often but reprocuding in small numbers, eventually it will adapt to it's surroundings through a minor mutation that becomes more gradual and obvious over it's descendants. It doesn't just go poof and sprout wings over night. Do you have transitional fossils to support this claim?

Do you have any evidence for this mass "termination"? Or, for these Marine Dragons for that matter? You do not have any evidence to support anything you said in the post. Your "theory" is not feasable in the least, as good of a try as it was and as much thought that you put into it. A Dragon only exists on the Astral Plain or some other Plain that is not physical. In our realm, they are but a dream. On that note, I shall go to sleep.

Peace.

hahahahahahah thank the stars you dont need to write a thesis... you would surely flunk!

Simply call this to your hypothesis, m.prince, not a theory... You can have a hypothesis on basically anything (as long as your grades or reputation isn't determined by it)...
i reckon, for example, that if you put batman and catwoman in the same room for eleven days, fill the room with a mixture of helium, laughing gas and the most recent cd by Marilyn Manson, a cute, fluffy guinea pig with scaly wings will emerge... See? :)

Eh, I don't like science. To me, science is a lie, I don't believe the periodic table of elements can form any substance or any 'thing' in the universe or known to man, there is more to life than the physical features, that is why we believe in magic, because we know that just because we can see something, doesn't mean that everything but that doesnt exist. In other words we believe without seeing, wereas scientists MUST see to believe, and that is why I 'know' they're wrong. However science is very helpful to anything physical, of course, I mean, hey, who doesn't love vacuum cleaners that go around doing it for you? And also, have you ever tried finding a color that we have not discovered yet? Just because the color wheel doesnt have it, doesn;t mean its not there. Anything is possible, that is what science tries to teach us, that we can do anything if we put our minds to it, but now they say dragons couldn't have existed just because there was no proof. Jeeze, they might as well come to me and say "oh, Isis and God never existed because we have no evidential proof." Please....Science is for school only.

Actually Manwitch, science applies to magick to if you didnt know. Magick is about us controlling energy to make our desire come to fruition, in which sceince applies. Energy is energy and it cannot be destoryed nor created only redirected. When Dragons come from the Astral to our plane, they are energy. Just like Demons and Angels that come from their plane and enter ours. So I understand why they would say that Dragons dont exist.

Okay, I hear your critisizm and do openly accept it, noticing and acknowledging the errors I made. I'm not sure what happened, my work is usually very good both at school and elsewhere. I'm not sure what happened, perhaps the stress due to me now boarding at my school, I have to constantly hide my magick stash, and my faery soul now sees human schooling as an even MORE irrelevant bunch of crap.
I just don't really see how all dragons could only come from the atsral plane. There are historical records of them existing, and the medievals couldn't have used the same astral travel meditation as the ancients. They saw that stuff as Satanic, and also many dragons look similair to birds if you think about it, I also acknowledge the fact that Dragonology is a book for entertainment but it does have descriptions of dragons in lore though. But never mind, I need to get over homesickness.

These "historical records" you speak of are nothing more than myths. Ancient stories told for religious value, moral value or entertainment. They would only exist on the Astral Plain because believing in them so much, as children do, creates a Thoughtform of that belief which exists on the Astral Plain. The reason why Judeo-Christianity saw Dragons as Satanic was form their mythological root, which means they would be considered hedonistic and blasphemic. Just because they have a similar look to birds, doesn't mean at all that they have connectins or even an existence. Manwitch, science is truth, whether yolu acknowledge it or not. You are too spiritual that you don't bother to look into the evidence presented.