You're all animadverting all the time. People want some kind of a spell,that's affecting someone's will,and you just attack them. Even if they said they know that it's affecting free will. First of all,magic has no color. It might be doing something not so good,but it's not BLACK. I don't see it as black,I don't see it at all,do you? So why freaking people out into never doing magic again by saying 'It is BLACK MAGIC. It's evil,bad,it's controlling someone and it's gonna backfire,get soo bad back at you,three times worse' Now let me tell you first. If someone said they KNOW all that and still want to do it,give them the spell or don't comment. I've been talking to many people who've expirienced that,and let me tell you the truth,they don't pay attention to those postst even when they say 'OK I won't do it'It's just out of respect for older magicians who write new bibles in one post. Second,3x3 is Wiccan. Some people performing magic are not wiccan,nor they believe in the law of threefold. And they don't maybe believe in anything affecting things itself without someone doing it,like karma. So it's their free choice to believe or not believe in it. If they don't,there's nothing preventing them from doing the spell. You just start telling people they don't know what they're getting into,that it's black magic,evil,and stuff,but maybe someone just wants to control someone's free will? Huh,never tought that? Well it's a fact! Just let people walk their path,be open minded and let them acffect someone's free will if they want to,because it's none of your buisness. They are not making you start casting spells like those,so you shouldn't be making them stop. I don't understand,you almost all are teaching someone,I just wonder did you make sure what path that person wants to walk? You're all soo blinded by your own beliefs and laws you respecet that you see no further than your own nose!
The idea of the three fold law or 3x3 is not limited to wiccan dogma. Many beliefs incorporate the idea of what you sow so shall you reap. Just because one chooses not to believe in something does not make in null and void or nonexistent.
I disagree that all of us are "animadverting all the time". Just because you may have witnessed several people doing this does not mean that everyone here does it every time someone asks for a spell that effects someones freewill. Many spells effect someones free will. A protection spell can effect someone's freewill. Say you cast a protection spell from a bully. In reality you are taking away the freewill of that bully to harm you. A spell to help you get a job can effect a person's freewill to choose the right person for the job.
Many of the elder practitioners are just trying to help those who are newer to the craft not make some of the mistakes that many do. By learning form others experiences one can bypass some of the negative aspects of practicing magic. If you don't care to listen to the advice that is your choice. I myself will not try to effect a persons freewill in this matter. In fact I believe if a person is going to be too naive to listen and perhaps take the advice given by one who has been on the path a bit longer then so be it. This is a case when that person needs of learn from their own mistakes and I bid them good luck with that.
Well, evil is not "just" opinion, it is an action, thought or word spoken. Religion has given us rules, boundaries and limitations just as our parents do; for our protection not to harm us or other people. So, it's more than an opinion. When you want to vomit and cry at the same time and feel so much pain for a victim, I'd say that's more than opinion.
Re: Black magic? HM!!! By: Birdlover101 / Beginner
Post # 7 Feb 04, 2011
I think there are certain situations when it might be appropriate, like if someone attacks you in a dark alleyway or somewhere no one can see you, you can use certain black magic defensive spells as long as no one is severely hurt or killed. I have one I know that I would never think of using unless it was an emergency, but of course I would never think of trying black magic because it goes against my personal code of conduct and I don't wish to hurt people.
I agree with you Replay, though I sometimes can't help but post my opinions. And there is no such thing as good and evil. They are purely matters of perspective. All religion usually does is narrow and sway our perspectives.
