Summon Lucifer With Old..

Hi guy
i want to summon lucifer but i dont want to summon him with sigil magic and ...but i want to summon him with old method and make pact with him plz give me a method.

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You could try to invite him in meditation. You could have offerings as well along with it.

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well summonings pull the being you wish to speak with into the area by force and i don't think you should be that disrespectful to Lucifer [so wise choice to seek other options]

i would do a bit more research on Lucifer before going forward so you know what you're getting into [not saying he's evil, you might discover offerings he favours, or that he's tricky so think before you speak, or others experience working with him that could benefit you] if you wish to work with him, i would set up an altar dedicated to him, leave offerings [please no animal sacrifices, try cooking him lamb chops or something instead] introduce yourself, explain why you wish to work with him, then sit and meditate. just be observant for the next few days/weeks as your answer could come while you meditate, walking home, in a dream etc.

regarding making a pact, i hope you are separating the devil with Lucifer [unless you're using the name interchangeably in which case i should tell you there's a difference between the fallen angel and the man in the red pajamas with a hay fork] you can work with any deity or astral being without signing a pact with them.

i know all of them plz give me method

all of them are fake
i want method for summon him in
special time ,day with special incense with special circle or pantagram with special ritual and ....
Dont say to me this method not exist its exist

Wait, wait, wait. Let me make sure I understand this correctly.

For you say, " i dont want to summon him with sigil magic"
Meaning a long-standing tradition which uses the sigils of the spirit(s) being called?

But then you go on to request, "i want method for summon him ... with special circle or pantagram"
This would be his sigil.

So which is it? Do you want to use a sigil of Lucifer with or without his sigil?

"Dont say to me this method not exist its exist"
Nobody is saying that. Rather, they are all giving you practical advice in your request.

I would recommend slowing down, and typing a bit better. You need to spell out your words, and use capitalization and punctuation.

You should also actually read what people's responses are. You did not even clarify anything regarding questions asked.

So please stop just making demands, and have a conversation so people can help you.

Well, good old Lucy isn't really a Demon - but some people say different things - he is seen as the Witch-father and a Patron to Witches - particularly those who practice Luciferian Traditional Witchcraft (Which is quite popular at the moment)

If you try want to do it, the easiest way would be through his Sigil (you can literally google his Sigil, its kinda pretty) and do the rite as you see fit. You can also do Trance and travel to find him - I would not recommend this because you need to really understand what you're doing first.

However - Pacts, eh, they aren't all that it's cracked up to be, he is a being that represents Freedom, Cleverness and Rebellion - so being subservient or entering in Pacts isn't really his sort of thing.

Too long didn't read? Don't do it, you'll be wasting His and your time - actually learn magic if you want something.

He messaged me im a spiritual Satanist, and i gave him tips on what he can do, but he doesn't want to listen. So theres no point in trying to help him.

I would also suggest taking sometime to understand as much about Lucifer as you can, and what aspect of him you want to connect with. His role is different depending on the context. Be sure you are very specific in which form/expression of Lucifer you are trying to connect with.

Is it Lucifer as a part of the angelic host, Lightbearer and gifted as pure of voice and speaker of truth?

Is it Lucifer the fallen angel who represents the opposite of god and therefore is what allows choice to exist within the christian faith?

Is it Satan the interpretation of Lucifer as a primal force of negativity, violation of morality, and temptation into evil acts?

Or is it Lucifer as the interpretations that he is a mirror to the nature of humanity and the human experience, separate from the concept of god (but not necessarily opposed).

Hi,my name is vanissa,I now that lucifer, the devil or whatever you want to call him, he has many names,I call him my father, I would see him every night well lately I haven't the last time I saw him was at a friend's house we had a conversation plus I told him, long time no see. He was standing there in a corner watching me, and talking to me and then he left and I went back to sleep. I believe in him. That's not the first time I've seen him, I've seen him as a child. Is it wrong?