Punish from Gods

Untdkngdm33, may I ask you if you believe in spirits, gods and goddesses? Many people feel them, not only by looking at them but also in general. It sometimes happens to people when they are very close that they can feel there emotions even when they don't see eachother. This also happens with gods and goddesses. It is very hard to explain because you don't really do something but you suddenly feel an emotion.
That is probably what Unhade tried to say.
I hope this makes it more clear to you.

You say nothing at all and then hope you clarified something? You are free to believe what ever you want. But when you start making such nonsensical claims I will object and you will have a hard time trying to explain. I am not trying to change anyone's beliefs. Some of us are quite convinced that 'gods and goddesses' are not human at all but are just representative forces in the universe. And yet you people still try to pin human emotions on them. Let's not talk about spirits because 'kali' was defined as a goddess in the original post.

I agree 100% with Lark, Kali would not want you to hurt yourself nor ask you to hurt yourself.

If you are feeling like self harming, please seek the help of a counselor.

Lark really??????? Wow so it wasn't Kali?! But why I felt it so strongly??? And oh God I was wondering what I did wrong! It's okay, thank God. But why I have felt it that strongly? You know in the past..I had problems with a spirit, they had attached and made my life much worse... Could it be their own voice? Kali knows I know that obviously, but it's logical to not prevent it...

Mr. Untd-something, take a look at the answer right next to yours. Can you explain to me, how I can prove you I sensed she was sad? It's feeling, it is felt. Yes it is empathy, empathy is sensing feelings of others and I do and not only with Kali. And empathy is even stronger with someone you have a bond with. I haven't practised developing the empathy that has been given to me so I cannot sense a spirit anytime I want; it helps me by looking at their picture to feel them-it works like a link since the picture represents and shows her. You are just close-minded and trust me, it can be seen from a Magickal point of you; it just seems you are the one who hasn't studied much.

Matjin, thank you. :)

Human emotions?! Dude, humans are spirits! Have you ever heard of the phrase "You are a spirit in a body and not a body in a spirit?" Spirits may not think as humans do because they see things from a different perspective but they surely have personalities and human emotions. And in fact, Kali is one of the most compassionate Deities and entities. Many are cruel and cold, but not her.

Just like everything and every soul came from the Universe, Kali came as well. But this doesn't mean she is a "Universal force". But yes surely, that is a belief, you may believe we came from something else. But Kali has a form and a powerful and wild personality; just because She Is the Queen of Time and Endings, of Death; this is not an excuse to say Kali has no form, no emotions, no inteligence, no knowledge. Kali is not just a "thoughtform" created by man. Huney Kali is a Goddess.

Can you please stop trying to argue? I have opened this thread to get help, because it is obvious I'm having serious issues especially if this is another spirit and the spirit that used to cause me trouble which I have never banished... The last thing I want is getting gagged Again as I have no time for argues but am extremely confused with Kali and this period of my life. Please understand that I do not have time for your theories, you cannot change my mind about Kali or any other "Universal force" or how you want to call it and that, is guaranteed. Understand that I am polite with you and please stop being rude by saying my believs and others's people believs are nonsese. We don't really care if you believe them or not and I think everyone has the right to believe wherever he wants to. They may be nonsense to you but they are not to us.

Personally I don't think it is either Kali or some spirit that is telling you to harm yourself. I suspect there is something altogether different going on with you and your life that has nothing to do with magic or other beings. If you have not sought counseling help before to help you deal with such issues, then you certainly would be well-advised to do it at this time.

That being said, I believe this topic has run it's course and is devolving into a poinless argument. So I am locking the thread.