Magic is an energy that can bring change. Some can define it as in spell work where we focus the energy on a specific task, how the seasons change, even technology as magic. Simply it is a force that brings change. If you wish to use this to cast spells however, the limitations are that of the natural physical world we live in. You are human, any spell that claims you can transform or do something humans cannot naturally do is fake.
A spell can bring a new job or love your way not by having that thing appear before you the second you finish the spell, but by effecting the energy around you and/or the person/situation. You want to bring love into your life so the energy you send out is attracting love. People might not see it, but energetically you will be on a similar level and be attracted to each other like magnets. You still need to put in the work of meeting new people and creating deep connections, but the spell will bring more opertunities to find new love.
Long story short I suppose, if it is too good to be true it most likely is fake and will not work.
Re: What is real/fake ? By: Ashen_Heart / Beginner
Post # 8 Mar 30, 2019
If you mean science is greater than magic as in it's much more conventionally understood and you can perform rigorous tests on it then yeah. But magick, true magick,still follows the laws of science and it does work. Its effects can be more subtle or ambiguous, but it's still as real as science is.
There are different signs wether the spell is real or fake for example the language will me very modern compared to real spells that use Latin or very early Shakespearean-esk language
I have been practicing magic for years now and I still find spells that are terrible and don’t work.
Regarding magick as science, to a degree. Historically magick was knowing you could mix these herbs together to cure a cold [which today would be scientifically proven] magick is a natural, neutral force, found in nature. It works with nature to bring a desired change. Science doesn't trump magick any more than it trumps nature, it just brings a new understanding to the world. When you cast spells what you are doing it giving this neutral energy around you a charge to do a task [attract love, repel an enemy] that's what spells are for, bringing a natural change only quicker than if you went about it on your own. Magick is an energy that brings change. From caterpillar to butterfly, or turning water into electricity, these are changes and in a way could be consider magick to some [speicifcally those who practice witchcraft from an atheist path and don't cast spells] honestly, I waist Brysing was still alive, he was great at explaining magick to people.
Re: What is real/fake ? By: Rhododendron / Beginner
Post # 11 Mar 31, 2019
I'd disagree with spells that use modern language being fake. Unless one understands Latin, it doesn't make sense to use it in a spell. Nothing wrong with using Shakespearean English, either, as long as it makes sense to you, but there's nothing inherently better about a spell sounding archaic (besides, Shakespeare was modern English, so not especially early as far as the history of the English language goes. Granted, it was early as far as modern English goes, but it wasn't Beowulf -levels of early English). Again, if archaic -sounding language or Latin is something one fluently speaks, it can absolutely be used in a spell, but using a language that one doesn't understand will.probably just make your spell not work.
My general rule (and this is loose, so there may be some things that don't fit) is that if it can happen in mundane life, magickcan achieve it. People can get jobs without magick, so a spell could make the chances of doing well in a job interview greater. People can increase their confidence levels, so a spell could help with that. People can attract romantic partners, so a spell could help someone be more noticeable in that regard. Things like shapeshifting and flying and mindreading can't be done in the mundane world, so there's no way for them to work magickally. Again, loose rule of thumb, but it can help figure out whether a spell is plausible.
I agree, mind control.... No one can make you do or say something unless YOU allow it. (Per si) . Here let me use an apology: you really can not feel or tell someone what it's like too drive if you yourself has never even driven!so unless you know from your heart you will NEVER know real from fake.
A lot of people have a problem believing in something they can't see, feel, touch,whatever. That is where faith comes in. Just like the belief in a God or angels or a higher power, you can't always see them. But your belief and faith tells you they are real. I think magic, real magic is the same. You have to believe in yourself,in what you are doing or want to do to make magic work. It's not the stuff you see in movies and on tv. If it goes against reality, it's not real. You can not transform your physical body into another animal or creature. You cannot teleport yourself. Basically if it sounds too good to be true or something out of a fairytale, it probably is. What it can do is teach you to open your mind and explore and enhance gifts you may already have. There are so many paths to follow. Don't be in a hurry to find one. Take your time and learn all you can. My main path right now is herbal medicine and healing. I'm also an empath and can sense spirits,ghosts. With those I'm just trying to better my shields. Good luck in your journey. This is a great place to begin.
I also disagree with spells having to be in an ancient language most people don't understand. It's important to speak in the language you understand while casting spells to ensure you don't say something you didn't intend to say. Translators can only work so well before a mistake is made
