Three Fold Law/existence?

The law of three is a wiccan law,and not all witches follow wicca,i know that doesn't answer your question,but it's something that people should know,i have heard that the elders in "whit magick" covens only use karma to scare the newer practitioners,but i have also seen old wiccans and others who acually do believe in it,so it's a very good question,i think that if karma doesn't get around to someone,then that is the time to use negative magick,but that's just my opinion.

All the three fold law states is that what ever you do will return to you three fold. In other words in lamans terms watch the things that you do because you never know what kind of effect that they will have on you or the people or places or things around you. I don't believe in the three fold part but you get the picture.

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I dont know about the whole 3x thing. I do however belief that nothing comes without a price. Everything that is done requires some compensation. While this is usally in the form of energy I have found that many of the darker spells can take much more than just energy from the caster. On that same note, more good natured magick is often less taxing on the user. This could add credence to the three fold law, however it could also be that it is entirly based on the effort required for the spell. Also a more importan question is how magick could be based off karma. Karma is fundemently based on what the community believes is good and what is evil. for example, Human sacrifice is often viewed as evil, However the Aztecs used it to embrace there gods and saw it as good. This would seem to indicate the three fold law is based on personal views not some black and white guidlines.
Sorry if this seems jumbled. I was reasoning it out as i wrote.

The three fold law would be one of those belief things....either you believe in this or you do not, it is that simple.

In my opinion the Three-Fold Law applies to everyone whether they believe in it or not.

That being said, it is often misunderstood and looked at as some sort of Karmic retribution or punishment to scare us into being good little magic users. That was never the purpose of the Three-Fold Law. Nor does it mean that if you harm someone you will receive three times as much harm in return. Both of those are common misunderstandings or misinterpretations of the Law.

What the Law is telling all of us is that our choices and our actions have consequences and that those consequences come back to effect us physically, emotionally, and spiritually...hence the Three-Fold.

Here's an example. Say that you go through life always angry at others and seeking to get back at them.....

We know from medical research that persistent anger and hatred can cause many physical issues such as heart disease, stroke, gastric disease, high blood pressure, etc....hence the physical effect.

If you are always angry at people and lashing out at them you eventually drive them away from you. Who wants to always be around an angry person? This can lead to isolation, sadness, and depression...hence the emotional effect.

And going through life hating and being angry and cruel to others will also act to distance you from the Divine (by whatever name you know it.) Eventually you may no longer believe in or have connection to the Divine at all, leaving an important void in your soul...hence the spiritual effect.

Note that none of these effects require that you believe in them. They simply happen because of what you do...not because of what you believe. That, at least to me, is how the Three-Fold Law operates.

Hmm... Very good point! Yes, it might be possible that it will come back upon the caster but not in the way they expected. So, if I were to make someones hair fall out through a curse, that means my hair might not fall out like the 3 fold law states or what we percieve; but my hair might get dry and frizzy, I might go gray earlier. Hell! Who know's, my cats hair might fall out! However, if the person truely deserved it or you feel no shame nor guilt of what you did then perhaps it wouldn't come back to you at all! I never really thought of that aspect, thanks! (Yes, I know, bieleve has always been one of those words I can't spell for the life of me. lol! :)

Oh, it cleared the cobwebs, trust me! lol! I agree with you on everything even the karma notion. I think I can slightly entertain the idea that it would come back upon someone who did wrong, maybe not as much as it should or 3x fold, but subtly it might creep in. A man might have done evil his whole life be wealthy, live long and have everything in the world. Yet he might not have love or hope. He could be completely unhappy on the inside, in his own Hell. Now, that I could understand and beileve.Also, I agree it's possible there could be a coven or group with knowing and power that we couldn't even hardly grasp that are in the shadows. I mean, how many secret society's existed or exist. A LOT! Thank you for the food for thought on your post, it's much appreciated! :)

Lol, if karma doesn't do the trick black magic will? I like your ways!>:). In all seriousness I feel the same as you on the matter. I think that karma is all what one beileves and percieves. Someone might stub there toe on an object and think it's karma from kicking someone in the face days, weeks, months, even years before. So I agree, it's what you percieve. Just like my father and all his relatives swore up and down that they were taught as kids to never touch a bird or puppy or baby anything because the mother would kill it. It might be true for some wierd animals, but all around it was just an Ol' Wives tale mothers told there children to keep them from playing or accidently hurting baby animals or pissing off the mother. Just someone down the line forgot to tell the kids, now adults that it wasn't true. Thank you for your opinion and post! Much appreciated! :)

I've... seen it both ways honestly. I've come to believe something somewhere in the middle of it really. Karma, the law of three, whatever the heck you want to call it, functions more as a universal balance, rather than a personal one. For every good there must be an evil, but the universe may not dole it out on her own, and even if she does, there's a pretty fair chance she might miss her target.

I agree with Lark about the three-fold law.. I actually used a push karma spell in my earlier years. I didn't have control over my emotions, I let others control how I feel with their actions. Now that I'm older and understand life more, I don't bother pushing karma. I know they will get, or may have already got what they deserve.. About elder witches binding bad ones.. I believe it is entirely possible. The only problem with this is our power comes from us, but through the divine. I don't think I have to describe how hard it would be for an imperfect being to sever a divine link. Also keep in mind the law of balance.. Blessed, we.