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Hello Im James, from the Philippines. I am particularly interested in learning magic. However, I dont even know how to meditate. I cannot find peace everytime I try to meditate. It feels like something is holding me hard. And when I start to meditate, also I can sense a throbbing pain particularly above my nose part of forehead. Can somebody tell me what is happening?
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Re: A Newbie
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Interestingly your pain is exactly where the third eye is. It might be blocked and needs clearing. It's also a common symptom in migraines and things like that so maybe you should make sure that you are well hydrated and getting enough sleep. If you get pain in your head whilst sitting up maybe you could try meditating whilstlaying down.

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Well one thing is for certain, I know I have no migraines. And I was meditating while lying down. I also drank some water before I started the meditation.

But when I start my meditation, I always feel heavy. And I can also feel a throbbing pain on my forehead. And my mind is bombarded with things that certainly came out of nowhere. Sometimes they are in the form of memories, others are ideas and thoughts while sometimes its my mouth being filled with saliva.

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Your headfilling with random thoughts is completely normal, and is pretty much the whole point of learning to meditate. As you practise more, it will become easier to pass on these thoughts quicker and not get hung up on them. You're probably becoming more aware of your body and not realising it. Have you tried using www.calm.com to learn to meditate? Also have you tried listening to music while you meditate to give something to focus on? Insight Timer is a really good app with guided meditations and music.

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Re: A Newbie
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The reason you're feeling pain might simply be how you're positioning your eyes during meditation. Some people look up or furrow their brow or something along those lines subconsciously, which can cause headaches. If there are lights on, that can cause odd eye positioning, as it makes the insides of the eyelids more visible, which are close enough to be uncomfortable if one stares at them. Dim lights are helpful.

I can definitely relate to uncontrollable thoughts. Some people are able to push through these thoughts after practicing for a while. Guided meditation may also help with this, as it gives you something to focus on.

I'm unable to do meditations where I simply sit/lay because of my OCD, which causes a lot of intrusive thoughts that I really can't deal with. When it's not too bad, guided meditation works okay. I've also done meditation while moving, which I enjoyed. Basically, you can slowly move through different stretches or yoga positions while meditating, which gives you something to focus on and can help with those thoughts.

On a side note, if you're frequently having thoughts that interfere with your ability to function or cause distress, seek professional help. I'm not saying that's what's happening, I just felt I should mention it in case.

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Re: A Newbie
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Actually I have a mild case of ADHD. And I think the position of my eye might be the cause of the pain because I can only feel the pain in my forehead when Im meditating.

Ok ill try to meditate again and see if my head would still ache.

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I tried. And I think it worked a bit.

I have a fewer distractions now than before. And now I lasted 20 minutes. The longest so far compared to last time's 5 minutes.

The instruction did said though I am to see a white dot, slowing expanding until it wraps around me. However, upon meditating, as I go deeper, I saw something red and orange. And they look like rays, like the ones you see in an obstructed fire place. While looking at it, I got mixed feelings about it and without even realizing it, I jolted myself up.

The place is completely dark by the way. And I used music with my phone's lights off and covered.

Still the throbbing sensation in my forehead still remained but it wasn't as painful than before.

Thank you guys for the help and I hope you guys will help me more in the future.

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Something to consider is that meditation is a practice, which takes time to establish well. A lot of people recommend starting small, such as focusing on ten breaths. Some say start with three minutes, and move to five, then more. The advice changes in that manner, but is often similar in that people recommend starting with short intervals, and gradually increasing.

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Ok ill try focusing on ten breaths first.

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